new Cold War Theory

[Thoran]

Sigh... don't you hate it when a good Foreign Policy debate degenerates into partisan bickering.

[khazadman]

Anyone with the right training can fly a fighter, yes. It's not rocket science.

not just anyone can fly a fighter.mainly because it IS alot like rocket science.didn't you bother to read what i posted?you need a good understanding of physics and math before they let you fly them.the training is also very demanding,both mentally and physically.

Yeah, I did, didn't I? Maybe because he should never have been there in the first place, what with his poor grades in high school (and at Yale). Most people who get straight A's can't even dream of going to Yale, yet this loser gets C's all through high school, and in he goes. quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- nothing productive?he's owned his own business, -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Which failed miserably. Incidentally, it was something his daddy set him up with. quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- was one of the owners of the texas rangers, -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Which also failed, if I recall.

well if the business failed miserably he would not have been able to sell it.the business went sour because EVERYONE in the oil industry at the time was experiencing a down turn in business.
he failed with the rangers?he made $14,000,000 when he sold his share of the rangers.i wish i failed as badly.

Right - he rode his daddy's big name straight through to the governorship. And he didn't do such a hot job while he was governor, either. (By the way, 2nd largest state - after California).

how do you think gore got anywhere in life?by himself?not likely.

Yeah, but at least he went to Vietnam, unlike a certain somebody who joined the Air National Guard to avoid being drafted...

gore was in the army about 6 months.that's when his DADDY got him his deferment for divinity school.

Oh, excuse me. I wasn't aware that neither congressmen nor senators ever have to show results. See, I thought, in my total ignorance, that congressmen and senators voted on bills, debated bills, and investigated the other branches (not to mention dozens of other duties). I wasn't aware that their jobs were totally useless.

are you kidding?most of what they do is just find inventive ways to waste our money.lets look at hmo's shall we?edward m. kennedy has spent the last few years lambasting the republicans over the hmo debacle.but he is one of the people who brought us health maintenance organizations.they have spent massive amounts of money on welfare with nothing to show for it.trillions spent on the great society wasted.

By the way, tell all them black folks in Florida that the Republicans are all law-abiding. The same black folks who were denied the right to vote (probably for Gore) for mysterious reasons. Or do they not matter to you?

wow!you mean the dems voted bush into office?they must have because the dems ran ALL the counties where there were disputed ballots.no it's just the people in those districts must be pretty stupid that's all.when i lived in chesapeake virginia we used the same butterfly ballot that they used down there and we had no problems with the machines.

[khazadman]

Well, Gore's flip-flop over the years was nothing compared to Bush's utter hypocrisy - he funded a woman's illegal abortion in the 1960s, and now he is totally against it.

and where did you get this bit of trash?the dnc?

Mondale could've lied, or flip-flopped, or whatever. However, he was so honest that he told people he would raise their taxes. Reagan, of course, never told anyone he would raise their taxes, so the public voted for Reagan, even though he ended up raising taxes more than Mondale proposed. Mondale also lost because of Reagan's immense popularity - even though the man was a dolt and had no idea what the hell he was talking about, people still liked him, so he came out on top.

reagan had to increase spending in order to build the military back up after the dems crippled it.
just like a lefty.if someone disagrees with what you think is right they are automatically labeled as either racist or dumb.

[khazadman]

...btw, someone speaking seriously of an 'axis of evil' (although i dont know if her used exactly these words i merely tranlated them) has to be a little out of his mind... ...a few words to USA's morality : the USA will only act, if there is an economic advantage to gain. So far the USA NEVER acted out Morality. Noone conducts a multimillion $ operations just for being helpful, especially not the USA... ...Bush is after all a big joke, the leader of the worlds biggest democracy wasn't elected democratically... *muahaha*

yeah,germans are a pretty moral and upstanding bunch huh?when ever there is a big disaster who sends help?WE DO.who helped rebuild europe after it's second war to end all wars?WE DID.the world would be a pretty screwed up place if it wasn't for US.
and we did elect bush president despite what some people might think.

[ 04-22-2002, 05:15 PM: Message edited by: khazadman ]

[khazadman]

Sigh... don't you hate it when a good Foreign Policy debate degenerates into partisan bickering.

hell no!i love it!

[John D Harris]

Originally posted by khazadman: [QB] reagan had to increase spending in order to build the military back up after the dems crippled it. just like a lefty.if someone disagrees with what you think is right they are automatically labeled as either racist or dumb. [QB]

Now khazadman, You know only those people on the political left here in the USA can call others names, and lable them while saying name calling and labling is wrong and bad

[ 04-23-2002, 02:39 AM: Message edited by: John D Harris ]

[K T Ong]

When one reflects on how the West in general and the US in particular are driving the whole world towards an ecological abyss, one is very much apt to wonder how much store one can set by any claims to a morally superior position on the part of the West as opposed to the rest.

[Thoran]

Originally posted by K T Ong: When one reflects on how the West in general and the US in particular are driving the whole world towards an ecological abyss, one is very much apt to wonder how much store one can set by any claims to a morally superior position on the part of the West as opposed to the rest.

No offense KTOng but before you go pointing fingers at everyone else regarding ecological disasters I think you'd better take a hard look in the mirror.

BY FAR, the primary demand powering the EXTINCTION of rare and endangered plants and animals is demand in asia for those species... to be used in folk remidies and aphrodesiacs of all things.

As I said before, it's very easy for people to point fingers at others and feel all high and mighty, but truth to tell there's not many of us who are in a position to throw stones in this glass house we call the earth.

[ 04-23-2002, 11:16 AM: Message edited by: Thoran ]

Originally posted by K T Ong: When one reflects on how the West in general and the US in particular are driving the whole world towards an ecological abyss, one is very much apt to wonder how much store one can set by any claims to a morally superior position on the part of the West as opposed to the rest.

The former Soviet Union and Asia are far far more hard on the environment than the west is. There are thousands of square miles where nothing can live due to wanton nuclear waste dumping and testing, places where humans are deformed and mutated due to radiation....Id say, the west isn't spotless but It is making more attempts to clean itself up than the east. The waterways around Hong Kong, and other industrial areas in the asian theatre are quite poluted. Im also pretty sure that it is not the Anglo population of North america killing tigers so men ca eat their testicles for virility.

You can't just point to one entity and say "They are responsible" for every problem on the globe, no nation on earth is THAT dominant.

[khazadman]

When one reflects on how the West in general and the US in particular are driving the whole world towards an ecological abyss, one is very much apt to wonder how much store one can set by any claims to a morally superior position on the part of the West as opposed to the rest.

you couldn't be more wrong kt.the west is cleaning it's act so to speak.the worst damage to the environment is occuring in asia.more precisely,in china and india.asia ia also home to some of the most repressive governments on earth.so maybe the west does have a position of moral superiority as compared to the rest of the world.