this summon bug is killing me !!!!!!!!

[Eternal]

mannnnnnn ...........now i cant summon anything ! i need help.
(for those that never read it before i was experiencing a bug that would only let me summon 3 creatures instead of 5.)

i completed the game being able to summon 3 summons, then after playing tob for about 40 minutes , i cant summon anything !! not a single damn thing !!!

if i summon whatever, it says you can summon a maximum of 5 creatures etc. notice how i havent summoned anything at all...

i went back to the few areas i been, not much tob is pretty linear rite now... and there are no summons to be found lurking about. and i havent fought anybody that could imprison.

ive tried uninstalling then clearing everything it left behind in the bg2 folder then installing the whole soa n tob thing again only adding my save folder for my old save games.
but no luck .i still cant summon anything.
i have the tob fixpack and the tob official patch.

i really need help here, only way i can summon is via project image and thats not doing it for all these elite firegiants,i hope i was clear enough with the explanation.

thanks in advance

[Alson]

Wow! Mysterious...

Have you installed the Fixpack before the official patch?

[Annatar]

Maybe you can go for this ''formatteren'' sometimes I uninstall things on my computer but when it is complety removed there is always something left behind from that distinct program and when I install it again it has the same settings again like 4 months ago... this will probaly not work with SoA, but maybe there is a file that sticks in the Main SoA map that contains that Unusual bug...

its the same with with other games, an examply:

I install Half-life ----> Counterstrike...

I type in the cd key ----> gets in the Windows Database

3 Months later I wanna play counterstrike once more so I start it up... Failure CD-Key Invalid (orginal cd, not speaking of piracy here!)

Sierra cannot help me with this problem because they give me shitty advise and really don't seem to give a sh*t what my problems are.

I buy a new copy of half-life/counterstrike, install it.. I do not need to put the cd-key in the registry because it seems it already has a cd key code of half-life, I change the orginal key code in the Windows Registry and change it with the new code I got from my new CS/HL cd...

Half-life.exe.... and finally it works again... just because there was a glitch in the Windows Registry (not really a glitch but a real irrating bug that should not have been there) I couldn't play CS for about a week...

[Eternal]

i installed the patches in the right order,

uhmm help?
please

[karlosovic]

i dont know what is cutting down your summoning limit, but I can tell you that whatever it is... the info is stored in your saved game file. re-installing will not help unless you delete your saved games (and then why not just delete the saved games ?)

Plan A: quick but difficult
if you know how, I'm sure its possible to use Shadow Keeper to edit your saved game and reset the summons count. Problem is you have to know how

Plan B: easier, but pain in the ass
it's kinda long and complicated, but it should work.
1. export your character
2. take a note of:
...a - everyone in you party
...b - your gold
...c - everyone's experience
...d - everyone's equipment
...e - everyone's spells
3. start a new game with your imported character and get all your party members back
4. use clua to give everyone back their experience and levels
5. save it and use shadow keeper to give everyone back their spells and equipment

it's a hassle, but it should work

[andrewas]

Have you had any summons Imprisoned? bemi-liches tend to do that a lot. make sure to cast Freedom whenever it happens, otherwise the Imprisoned summon stays there forever and counts against the limit.

This means you should go back and cast Freedom everywhere youve been, but you wont easily be able to get to SoA areas. You can use CLUA codes to get there though.

[Desuma Malevois]

The reason you're experiencing this is that if you summon something and then leave the area before the creature is unsummoned, it stays behind. It won't go away until the next time you enter the area; therefore, it is always best to remove your summoned creatures before leaving an area.

I'm afraid that I don't know of a way to fix this, short of going back to every area that you've ever been to (which may not be possible anymore). It's possible that this is an effect that has been tacked onto your character and can be removed with ShadowKeeper, but someone with more knowledge than I would have to tell you how.

[ 02-15-2003, 09:30 AM: Message edited by: Desuma Malevois ]

[Eternal]

guys... like i posted, the limit went from 3 to 0 during TOB.

tob is very linear, or at least the part ive played so ive only been in 4 areas,
the fire giant temple, the city, the palace and that forrest place and all areas are fairly small. ive went back to all these areas and there were no summons lurking about. also there have been no enemies there capable of imprisoning.
even tho..... i did cast freedom every place i fought a mage (can count it on 1 hand)
and that didnt help either.

so basicly im screwed. also nobody is imprisoned.
my only hope is that anybody knows how i can reset the summon count thru shadow keeper or something.

that other method wont work cuz theres still the explored areas. done quests etc etc etc.
and offcourse adding levels wont give you the benefits that come with the levels the thaco ac etc .

does anybody know how i can reset the summon count?
prolly not but il ask anyway ,,,, cmon anyone?

[Bardan the Slayer]

I can only assume that this is set somewhere in the .GAM file in savegames. I checked the File Format description at TBG, but there are alot of unknowns in there. Maybe if someone is motivated, they could try and find out if the summoned creature count is in there. Good luck!