09-21-2003, 12:00 AM | #41 |
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There is a chapter in the book Myth and Ritual in Christianity by Alan Watts that discusses, technically, what Satanism (which he term "Luciferanism") really constitutes, at least from the Catholic point of view. Trust me, it isn't what you might think. [img]graemlins/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif[/img]
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09-21-2003, 04:22 AM | #42 |
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Satanism, christianity, its all about giving something of yourself. With satanism its blood, with christianity its 10% of your yearly income. You decide which faith screws you the hardest .... And please: do correct me if I'm wrong believers! I've had my fair share of 'modern' christians so I know what I'm talking about ...
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09-21-2003, 05:57 AM | #43 |
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Hey, Vaskez, you don't need an award to be sarcastic, y'know
Edited to put the word "you" in italics because otherwise, the phrase has a spiteful meaning rather than a teasing one. [ 09-21-2003, 08:21 AM: Message edited by: Kaltia ]
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09-21-2003, 08:19 AM | #44 | |
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Satanists DO worship Satan though they might not refer to him by that name. There is an official church of satan, there is a real black mass. Whether they believe God himself is evil or simply would rather not bother with God at all thats their choice. Now the Church of Satan has gone through reform, it used to require all sorts of now illegal things which were removed as time moved on. As for not looking down on them, you can't help but have some people, mainly people of the complete opposite faith, look down on him, its like being a Jew and your next door neighbhor worships Hitler. I don't need to know that you worship satan or god for that matter anyhow. If you held close to the Christian faith you would probably be offended by satanists, in fact the name Satan in Hebrew means Enemy, or opposer, the name satan stands for the enemy of man or god. If you want to go deeper, satan is later named Lucifer in Miltons Paradise lost I believe, lucifer being his angelic name before the fall meaning Light Bearer Luci=light, fer=to hold or carry, then you can go even farther into the old testament demonolgy where satan goes under so many names. The dragon, Baal(meaning lord, it was used by babylonians which deified their emperors), baalzebub(a combination of both persian I believe as well as babylonian Baal), behemoth (From sumerian mythos I believe), asmodaeus(origninally asmodaeus meant evil spirit but eventually became used as chief evil spirit), the devil, the fiend, ect, there are possibly more names for satan than for god, aw gehenna, im going off on random tangents here, anyhow, don't ask, don't tell, that goes for all religions. You tell and your asking for it either way.
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i posted one thread about satanism before..
link is here: http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/cg...;f=10;t=016251 my views and my own philosophy about it. its a bit long [img]tongue.gif[/img] . hope you might find something your looking for there.
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09-21-2003, 09:35 AM | #46 |
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oh yeah.. another thread made by me ages ago (well i think it was a year ago, well what the heck). i remembered i had an interesting view about satan then. just check the link.
http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/cg...;f=10;t=009243
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Oh, and just a note for all those who are replying to Lovisa's original question: this is an old topic that was bumped, Lovisa might not even be around any more to read your replies. [img]smile.gif[/img] [ 09-21-2003, 10:30 AM: Message edited by: Melusine ]
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There was a very good discussion about Satanism on IronWorks many months ago. It included a link to a site that explained the different belief systems that are grouped under the general heading of Satanism. Check it out to learn more about just how different the belief systems are. As for my personal opinion, I agree with the description given by Leonis regarding a Christian perspective on Satanism. I disagree with the beliefs they hold, but I respect their rights to believe them. BTW, the previous discussion on Satanism was both interesting and informative, with all sides being equally represented and equally respected. Anyone interested in what was said then can find it here - IW Discussion on Satanism
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