The OFFICIAL Ironworks Football World Cup Thread--Part IV

[GokuZool]

In the 80th minute it's still 0-0 between Senegal and Turkey. Both teams have had great opportunitys but can't seem to find the back of the net! It looks like it may go into extra time....

[ 06-22-2002, 09:11 AM: Message edited by: GokuZool ]

[Grojlach]

Originally posted by norompanlasolas: well, i believe that you play to win, and that anything else is a failure. lowering expectations will get you nowhere, not now, and not in 4 years time. thats why they havent won the WC since '66.

But how often has Spain been World Champion then?

[Memnoch]

Originally posted by norompanlasolas: quote: Originally posted by Memnoch: This is called being graceful in defeat. [img]smile.gif[/img] After Italy lost to South Korea, the South Korean striker who scored against Italy was fired by his Italian club team Perugia, an act that Dr Szreter called "extraordinarily infantile". The English, with their lower expectations, have so far been graceful in defeat, consoling themselves with the thought "we did not do badly," and, with such a young side, hoping that in four years time, England will be as mature and formidable a team as Brazil is now. ---from the Guardian

well, i believe that you play to win, and that anything else is a failure. lowering expectations will get you nowhere, not now, and not in 4 years time. thats why they havent won the WC since '66.[/QUOTE]There's also such a thing as bouncing back from adversity in a positive way and overcoming whatever obstacles life throws in your way. Life is not always fair - it's how people react to adversity that shows what kind of character they have. [img]smile.gif[/img]

I hope you're not taking any offence, norom - I rarely get to contribute my opinion in these debates and I'm not having a go at you personally - I just think that all this whinging about referee bias, etc in the media is just WAY over the top.

[Downunda]

Goi Korea!

[norompanlasolas]

Originally posted by Grojlach: quote: Originally posted by norompanlasolas: well, i believe that you play to win, and that anything else is a failure. lowering expectations will get you nowhere, not now, and not in 4 years time. thats why they havent won the WC since '66.

But how often has Spain been World Champion then? [/QUOTE]well, im not spanish, i just live here. im argentinian!

edit: 2 times!!!

[ 06-22-2002, 09:22 AM: Message edited by: norompanlasolas ]

[norompanlasolas]

Originally posted by Memnoch: quote: Originally posted by norompanlasolas: quote: Originally posted by Memnoch: This is called being graceful in defeat. [img]smile.gif[/img] After Italy lost to South Korea, the South Korean striker who scored against Italy was fired by his Italian club team Perugia, an act that Dr Szreter called "extraordinarily infantile". The English, with their lower expectations, have so far been graceful in defeat, consoling themselves with the thought "we did not do badly," and, with such a young side, hoping that in four years time, England will be as mature and formidable a team as Brazil is now. ---from the Guardian

well, i believe that you play to win, and that anything else is a failure. lowering expectations will get you nowhere, not now, and not in 4 years time. thats why they havent won the WC since '66.[/QUOTE]There's also such a thing as bouncing back from adversity in a positive way and overcoming whatever obstacles life throws in your way. Life is not always fair - it's how people react to adversity that shows what kind of character they have. [img]smile.gif[/img]

I hope you're not taking any offence, norom - I rarely get to contribute my opinion in these debates and I'm not having a go at you personally - I just think that all this whinging about referee bias, etc in the media is just WAY over the top.[/QUOTE]no problem memnoch! im not taking it personally. its just that i feel really passionately about THE GAME. im not attacking anyone either, btw. i would picture this as a pub argument with my friends, with everybody yelling, laughing and even arguing more extreme opinions than what they really have. but everybody remains friends at the end. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Memnoch]

Originally posted by norompanlasolas: no problem memnoch! im not taking it personally. its just that i feel really passionately about THE GAME. im not attacking anyone either, btw. i would picture this as a pub argument with my friends, with everybody yelling, laughing and even arguing more extreme opinions than what they really have. but everybody remains friends at the end. [img]smile.gif[/img]

That's the best thing about arguing about sports - everyone is very passionate but one thing unites everyone - the passion they have for the team they love. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Now let's all argue about how pathetic England were in the second half of their game against Brazil - especially when they had 11 men to 10.

[ 06-22-2002, 09:25 AM: Message edited by: Memnoch ]

[Grojlach]

Turkey wins! Golden goal. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Memnoch]

Brazil-Turkey rematch in the semi then. [img]graemlins/wow.gif[/img]

[Lanthir]

Now that was a pretty goal by Turkey. I am glad they won since they controled the game throughout. Although they had problems finishing all day.
I am looking forward to seeing the brazil rematch with them.