Compared To Hitler?

[John D Harris]

Originally posted by Ilander: Yeah, Aerich is right...why can't we just compare Bush to a bad president instead of the "worst person of all time besides satan." Why not call him an Andrew Jackson ripoff, or a stupid, impulsive version of Woodrow Wilson, or an imperialist like Teddy Roosevelt? Those comparisons are closer to being relevant.

It's not as much fun, that would make him human and we can't have any of that going on. He's got to be as close to the anti-Christ as possible.

[Aerich]

Yes, rationalism in politics is heresy. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Chewbacca]

Originally posted by promethius9594: I guess since I also support a woman's right to choose, I am akin to a Nazi as well? no, you'd just be a citizen. (j/k, of course). 43 million babies though, man, thats ALOT of dead kids.

They aren't babies, they are fetuses and part of a woman's body.

[Masklinn]

This thread is derailing ! Let's start another one on abortion !

(Hehe, mods will hate me)

Originally posted by Ilander: Yeah, Aerich is right...why can't we just compare Bush to a bad president instead of the "worst person of all time besides satan." Why not call him an Andrew Jackson ripoff, or a stupid, impulsive version of Woodrow Wilson, or an imperialist like Teddy Roosevelt? Those comparisons are closer to being relevant.

Well mainly because heisn't a bad president for starters, And we as a whole are neither Imperialists nor empire oriented....any suggestion that we are would be just ignorant..so we can toss out that theory now. The comparisons you made may be closer to being relevent but just as false. Strike 1.

Originally posted by Chewbacca: quote: Originally posted by promethius9594: I guess since I also support a woman's right to choose, I am akin to a Nazi as well? no, you'd just be a citizen. (j/k, of course). 43 million babies though, man, thats ALOT of dead kids.

They aren't babies, they are fetuses and part of a woman's body. [/QUOTE]
So then you are against late term partial birth Abortions Chewie? Since as part of the abortion process they are partially delivered from the womans body and in many cases capable of survivng ...if they did not have their spinal cords severed that is.....Right? I mean once the head is out...can you say its part of the womans body?

[Masklinn]

Well mainly because heisn't a bad president for starters.

For you Magik (and others as well if they wanna answer), what previous president has been a bad one (if any) and why ?

And we as a whole are neither Imperialists nor empire oriented

And for once Magik, I agree with you. Things would have been handled very differently if the US were indeed imperialists and just that. They are just doing what they think is good for them...in a very wrong way.

[promethius9594]

Why not call him an Andrew Jackson ripoff

funny you should mention this... andrew jackson is only a few steps higher than hitler on the crappy people list. lest we not forget, he used the military to force the indians on the trail of tears where they were marched to death, less than half of those who left arrived. when congress tried to stop them he sent a letter asking which army they intended to use.

OH NO, wait, let me put on my rose colored glasses and... what indians, there were indians in america? naw, they've always lived on reservations, and andrew jackson is just some great guy on the twenty dollar bill. thats right, the only bad guys in the world are hitler and the guys alive in america today.

instead of the "worst person of all time besides satan."

okay, hitler is up there, but im not sure you could call him the worst person of all time. egyptions lorded over the hebrews for much longer, and millions of hebrews died in the decades it took to build the pyramids. nero ceasar and his persecution of the christians nearly wiped an entire religion from the world. russia starved, abducted, or cold bloodedly slaughtered a third of its population. china allowed 20 million to starve, and in eighteen years, estimates show that sadam was responsible for 12 million deaths... 4 million more than the total number who died in concentration camps. we live in a world of bad dudes, not just one.

They aren't babies, they are fetuses and part of a woman's body.

oh, sure, and the jews arent human, theyre part of a conspiracy to bring germany down. OH, and the kurds, they arent human, they dont even have a country. Lets not forget the black slaves, they weren't human, they were black.

justify it however you want... what you consider "enlightened" perspective is just barbarianism recycled.

[ 06-26-2004, 02:26 AM: Message edited by: promethius9594 ]

[Black Baron]

The worst man in the entire worlds history is Lenin. The maniac started it all, the Gulags the executions and the siberia transports. He had no teachers, unlike Hitler and Stalin. I find it interesting-every one says that hitler was an evil man (he was indeed), but forget the more obvious evilry-the USSR commies.

On topic now: Is not there a law in USA that will permit Kerry to sue the film makers? Law about making a bad name or something. If not, there is a need to promulgate one.

[Grojlach]

Originally posted by promethius9594: They aren't babies, they are fetuses and part of a woman's body. oh, sure, and the jews arent human, theyre part of a conspiracy to bring germany down. OH, and the kurds, they arent human, they dont even have a country. Lets not forget the black slaves, they weren't human, they were black. justify it however you want... what you consider "enlightened" perspective is just barbarianism recycled.

*sigh*
I'm really, really tired of below-the-belt argumentations like the one quoted above. I could say about a million things right now, but good chance you won't listen to them anyway - I suppose that's why religious topics were banned in current events. Really, let's not go there and just let the subject rest already. No use beating that horse fetus, it was never alive to begin with.

[ 06-26-2004, 03:35 AM: Message edited by: Grojlach ]