I think I found a new bug!

KAR_MOD1 · 10-11-2002, 01:25 PM

*EDIT on 1-8-03 deleted the link to the screenshot to conserve bandwidth*

Gareth was giving his opening speech, IN ISHAD N'HA! ScreenShot: Not Available(I was reading the rules and regulations and it says your not supposed to attach files, for security reasons, i'll edit and attach if its allowed) I don't know if this is an unknown bug or a very old one that hasnt been brought up for a while. When I ran into the bug, the game seemed fine, it didnt crash or slow down, so it isnt a bug that hinders the game, but a bug/trick that causes the game to do something irregular. I dont know if this helped cause the bug, but i have Win XP and DIDNT do the VirtualDub fix, what i'm suggesting is, maybe compressing the town files would prevent this or what. Ok so here's the deal, the save files are over a year old and i was using duel parties, 2 at a time, playing them for a while, saving, restarting/reverting adventures, and taking the other party out, saving, and restarting/reverting adventures. so, today, i loaded an old save game ( 1 year old), but quit w/o saving and went to the ishad n'ha town inn, i hit revert and when i left the inn w/a character, gareth appeared and starting giving his speech like he does in Valiea when you leave the inn for the first time, or restart adventures. but, i didnt restart adv. , only reverted to before they left town. i'm thinking, I restarting prior to reverting which caused him to appear as if i was in Valiea. I don't have characters in Brimloch Roon, so i don't know if you can also do it there. Maybe if some of you are bored and want a new challenge to figure out, go ahead and try what i did and see if you can get him to appear in ishad n'ha/ brimloch roon. if you do, i'll be interested in seeing what you come accross.
Thank you for reading this long post.
*EDIT on 1-8-03 deleted the link to the screenshot to conserve bandwidth*

[ 01-08-2003, 08:21 AM: Message edited by: KAR_MOD1 ]

Bungleau · 10-11-2002, 02:10 PM

Interesting... I haven't paid attention to where Gareth gives his opening speech from. I may have to give it a look later.

As for attaching files, I don't see anything in the rules that prohibits you from attaching images in your post (just asking you to be reasonable in size, and defining what reasonable is). I would expect that Z would get pretty upset if people started including javascript and other things like that in their posts; too great an opportunity for nasty things to happen.

chi master · 10-11-2002, 03:14 PM

You should send it in to saz at the gael serran examiner I can see the headline "Gareth,umm wrong town!" LOL.

Bungleau · 10-11-2002, 03:38 PM

Now THAT's a good idea! I can picture the headlines now... Dead mage seen wandering Ishad N'ha... insurance companies verifying before paying on life insurance policy... *smirk*

KAR_MOD1 · 10-11-2002, 05:53 PM

hehe

I should send it to Saz, the Gael Serran Examiner should publish a new issue, espically for all the new users on the board who have no idea what GSE even is [img]smile.gif[/img]
Bungleau: My computer was un-patched and w/o virtual dub, which I believe was the major cause of this, and having 2 parties at once also caused it. B-cuz i've been using 2 parties (using the same system i stated above) for a while on a comp w/ Win 98 and never came accross that problem. Hey, perhaps its another sign you have Win XP or 2000, if Gareth is seen in any of the other towns, giving the opening speech, but I suppose this is a very odd and uncommon bug, that no one will come accross accidently.

*EDIT* Oh yea, the rule is in the faq, under "CAN I ATTACH FILES?" but it does make sense as it would make the forum load even slower for people who still use 56k modems.

[ 10-11-2002, 05:55 PM: Message edited by: KAR_MOD1 ]

Bungleau · 10-11-2002, 09:15 PM

Thanks for educating me, Kar_Mod1. I was looking in the rules and regulations, and didn't look in the FAQ. It is indeed there -- giving the URL to a picture or file is the best solution.

LiOnHe@rT · 10-12-2002, 02:08 AM

or maybe a better 1............."Blur mage, could be an undead, wandering around Ishad' N'ha-ha-ha. all villages please be aware!"
heehee!!!!

Wyvern · 10-12-2002, 02:38 PM

What comes to my mind is -

Was there a new character in the party? or was there a party member in the group that somehow was not in the roster.dat? Either one could be seen by the game as a "new game" and trigger Gareth to appear.

Certainly an interesting happening and would make a great Gael Serran Examiner issue!

Wyv

WillowIX · 10-12-2002, 03:46 PM

Very strange indeed... I think Wyv´s on to something. Did you leave some "mules" in Ishad N´ha? If you do and then start a new game, you can actually select Ishad N´ha and the characters in that Inn for the new game. You can´t create characters in Ishad N´ha but you can select party members who are in the inn. That could possibly cause this. I have to try it out.

Packrat · 10-12-2002, 03:48 PM

The New Bug, could be a result of a corrupt townhub file.

Just for grins...

...I copied townhub1 & 3 and put them elsewhere...then...Deleted townhub1 and renamed townhub3...to townhub1.

Next...I started the game...loaded a save, near town...went inside... and reset adventures.

I had to mouse around and watch the text screen, to find the Inn...(In the Brimloch hub...it's at the Bushi Dojo}..once I found it ...I selected a character and stepped outside.

LOL...I got to watch Gareth....Give his speech in Brimloch Roon...

Afterwards I just...dropped the original files onto the townavi folder...and everything was back to normal... [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]

***So...KAR_MOD1...my only questions about this bug are ...

1. What triggered Gareths speech????
* Did you just reset or start a New party/character????
* Or, was it spontanious???

And
2. Are the towns all working properly now???

10-11-2002, 01:25 PM	#1
KAR_MOD1 Drow Warrior Join Date: October 15, 2001 Location: Cleveland, USA Age: 38 Posts: 270	EDIT on 1-8-03 deleted the link to the screenshot to conserve bandwidth Gareth was giving his opening speech, IN ISHAD N'HA! ScreenShot: Not Available(I was reading the rules and regulations and it says your not supposed to attach files, for security reasons, i'll edit and attach if its allowed) I don't know if this is an unknown bug or a very old one that hasnt been brought up for a while. When I ran into the bug, the game seemed fine, it didnt crash or slow down, so it isnt a bug that hinders the game, but a bug/trick that causes the game to do something irregular. I dont know if this helped cause the bug, but i have Win XP and DIDNT do the VirtualDub fix, what i'm suggesting is, maybe compressing the town files would prevent this or what. Ok so here's the deal, the save files are over a year old and i was using duel parties, 2 at a time, playing them for a while, saving, restarting/reverting adventures, and taking the other party out, saving, and restarting/reverting adventures. so, today, i loaded an old save game ( 1 year old), but quit w/o saving and went to the ishad n'ha town inn, i hit revert and when i left the inn w/a character, gareth appeared and starting giving his speech like he does in Valiea when you leave the inn for the first time, or restart adventures. but, i didnt restart adv. , only reverted to before they left town. i'm thinking, I restarting prior to reverting which caused him to appear as if i was in Valiea. I don't have characters in Brimloch Roon, so i don't know if you can also do it there. Maybe if some of you are bored and want a new challenge to figure out, go ahead and try what i did and see if you can get him to appear in ishad n'ha/ brimloch roon. if you do, i'll be interested in seeing what you come accross. Thank you for reading this long post. EDIT on 1-8-03 deleted the link to the screenshot to conserve bandwidth [ 01-08-2003, 08:21 AM: Message edited by: KAR_MOD1 ] __________________ Dark Age of Camelot Addict

10-11-2002, 02:10 PM	#2
Bungleau 40th Level Warrior Join Date: October 29, 2001 Location: Western Wilds of Michigan Posts: 11,752	Interesting... I haven't paid attention to where Gareth gives his opening speech from. I may have to give it a look later. As for attaching files, I don't see anything in the rules that prohibits you from attaching images in your post (just asking you to be reasonable in size, and defining what reasonable is). I would expect that Z would get pretty upset if people started including javascript and other things like that in their posts; too great an opportunity for nasty things to happen. __________________ B Save Early, Save Often Save Before, Save After Two-Star General, Spelling Soldiers -+-+-+ Give 'em a hug one more time. It might be the last.

10-11-2002, 03:14 PM	#3
chi master Zhentarim Guard Join Date: July 19, 2002 Location: New Zealand Age: 34 Posts: 398	You should send it in to saz at the gael serran examiner I can see the headline "Gareth,umm wrong town!" LOL. __________________ Long time no see.

10-11-2002, 03:38 PM	#4
Bungleau 40th Level Warrior Join Date: October 29, 2001 Location: Western Wilds of Michigan Posts: 11,752	Now THAT's a good idea! I can picture the headlines now... Dead mage seen wandering Ishad N'ha... insurance companies verifying before paying on life insurance policy... smirk __________________ B Save Early, Save Often Save Before, Save After Two-Star General, Spelling Soldiers -+-+-+ Give 'em a hug one more time. It might be the last.

10-11-2002, 05:53 PM	#5
KAR_MOD1 Drow Warrior Join Date: October 15, 2001 Location: Cleveland, USA Age: 38 Posts: 270	hehe I should send it to Saz, the Gael Serran Examiner should publish a new issue, espically for all the new users on the board who have no idea what GSE even is [img]smile.gif[/img] Bungleau: My computer was un-patched and w/o virtual dub, which I believe was the major cause of this, and having 2 parties at once also caused it. B-cuz i've been using 2 parties (using the same system i stated above) for a while on a comp w/ Win 98 and never came accross that problem. Hey, perhaps its another sign you have Win XP or 2000, if Gareth is seen in any of the other towns, giving the opening speech, but I suppose this is a very odd and uncommon bug, that no one will come accross accidently. EDIT Oh yea, the rule is in the faq, under "CAN I ATTACH FILES?" but it does make sense as it would make the forum load even slower for people who still use 56k modems. [ 10-11-2002, 05:55 PM: Message edited by: KAR_MOD1 ] __________________ Dark Age of Camelot Addict

10-11-2002, 09:15 PM	#6
Bungleau 40th Level Warrior Join Date: October 29, 2001 Location: Western Wilds of Michigan Posts: 11,752	Thanks for educating me, Kar_Mod1. I was looking in the rules and regulations, and didn't look in the FAQ. It is indeed there -- giving the URL to a picture or file is the best solution. __________________ B Save Early, Save Often Save Before, Save After Two-Star General, Spelling Soldiers -+-+-+ Give 'em a hug one more time. It might be the last.

10-12-2002, 02:08 AM	#7
LiOnHe@rT Baaz Draconian Join Date: August 6, 2002 Location: Singapore, youngest ever!!! Age: 35 Posts: 731	or maybe a better 1............."Blur mage, could be an undead, wandering around Ishad' N'ha-ha-ha. all villages please be aware!" heehee!!!! __________________ <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[knight]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/knight.gif\" /> I am the Glacial Knight and will purge thy evil! (though this knight doesnt look so icicle...)

10-12-2002, 02:38 PM	#8
Wyvern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Rural Paradise, MI Posts: 5,701	What comes to my mind is - Was there a new character in the party? or was there a party member in the group that somehow was not in the roster.dat? Either one could be seen by the game as a "new game" and trigger Gareth to appear. Certainly an interesting happening and would make a great Gael Serran Examiner issue! Wyv

10-12-2002, 03:46 PM	#9
WillowIX Apophis Join Date: July 10, 2001 Location: By a big blue lake, Canada Age: 50 Posts: 4,628	Very strange indeed... I think Wyv´s on to something. Did you leave some "mules" in Ishad N´ha? If you do and then start a new game, you can actually select Ishad N´ha and the characters in that Inn for the new game. You can´t create characters in Ishad N´ha but you can select party members who are in the inn. That could possibly cause this. I have to try it out. __________________ Confuzzled by nature.

10-12-2002, 03:48 PM	#10
Packrat Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: March 16, 2002 Location: Wauconda, IL Age: 67 Posts: 656	The New Bug, could be a result of a corrupt townhub file. Just for grins... ...I copied townhub1 & 3 and put them elsewhere...then...Deleted townhub1 and renamed townhub3...to townhub1. Next...I started the game...loaded a save, near town...went inside... and reset adventures. I had to mouse around and watch the text screen, to find the Inn...(In the Brimloch hub...it's at the Bushi Dojo}..once I found it ...I selected a character and stepped outside. LOL...I got to watch Gareth....Give his speech in Brimloch Roon... Afterwards I just...dropped the original files onto the townavi folder...and everything was back to normal... [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img] **So...KAR_MOD1...my only questions about this bug are ... 1. What triggered Gareths speech???? Did you just reset or start a New party/character???? * Or, was it spontanious??? And 2. Are the towns all working properly now??? __________________ Packrat<br /><br />...sometimes your the windshield.....sometimes your the bug....

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