Not being able to exit towns...

WillowIX · 09-26-2002, 05:01 PM

Just a though for the people not being able to exit the gates. Now the townmsk*.avi files are the "movies" for towns. BUT there are 3 other avi files in the same folder, the townhub*.avi files. Now all those files are needed for the towns but only the townmsk´s are needed for the interior. The townhubs are needed for the exterior and the gates aren´t leading to a building, just an end to viewing an avi-clip. Could it be that simple as to extract ALL avi files in the avi folder? Every opinion is appreciated [img]smile.gif[/img] !

[ 09-26-2002, 05:02 PM: Message edited by: WillowIX ]

Jafin · 09-26-2002, 05:16 PM

Hmmmm.... I'm not really sure. It seems to me that if you extracted all of the avi files you'd disable towns all together causing more problems. I think I'll try it though just to check out what happens. Of course, I don't have the problem of not being able to leave towns but it might give us a little insight as to what'll happen if you do extract them.

Ummm.... as a side note, do you mean extract as in remove the file from the folder or is it something else. 'Cuz if you meant something else I just made a complete fool of myself [img]smile.gif[/img]

-Jafin

WillowIX · 09-26-2002, 05:24 PM

rotflmao!!! I´m sorry Jafin but I can´t just stop laughing.. No I don´t mean to "extract them from the folder" but to "extract them with Virtualdub", like you do when you can´t enter the guilds (the classical win2000 bug)... I wouldn´t recommend removing the files from the folder since you´d probably wouldn´t like what you´ll see. Feel free to try though and tell me if you see red, yellow, green, red or blue shapes resembling the buildnings of Valeia [img]smile.gif[/img]

Jafin · 09-26-2002, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WillowIX:
rotflmao!!! I´m sorry Jafin but I can´t just stop laughing.. No I don´t mean to "extract them from the folder" but to "extract them with Virtualdub", like you do when you can´t enter the guilds (the classical win2000 bug)... I wouldn´t recommend removing the files from the folder since you´d probably wouldn´t like what you´ll see. Feel free to try though and tell me if you see red, yellow, green, red or blue shapes resembling the buildnings of Valeia [img]smile.gif[/img]

.................................................. .........
*goes and sits down in a corner and cries* j/k

Yeah, NOW I feel stupid, definitely stupid... LOL! I thought I was going to make a fool of myself there and I SUCCEEDED! The word extract did seem a bit odd for removing them from the folder, LOL! I watched the movies (both the msk and hub ones) and the msk ones (I think it was anyway) really did look strange.

-Jafin, the new jester

PS - I think I will still try to see what happens at sometime though if I remove the files just for kicks and giggles [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 09-27-2002, 01:14 AM: Message edited by: Jafin ]

Bungleau · 09-26-2002, 06:20 PM

I think that makes eminent sense. If you can't access the stuff in town because the town files are compressed, you probably can't access the stuff outside of town for the same reason.

At the very least, it shouldn't hurt too much...

Now, to find a suc^h^h^h volunteer to test it out. I don't run W&W on Win2k or higher, so I can't help. Any other takers?

macoati · 09-28-2002, 11:24 AM

Sorry, was on the road and didn't have my login info for the forum:

I had W2k on my laptop and intalled WW. I did the Vdub fix on the townmask*.avi files immediately. The graphics for the townmask files seem to be the 'negative' of the townhub files. I think the townmask files set the 'active' or 'clickable' locations into the townhub files. Viewing the townhub files through virtualdub they appear the be each town graphics files as they are seen by you when you are in each respective town. These files are also compressed. I re-saved the townhub*.avi files as "old format AVI" just like the townmask files and saw absolutely NO difference in game performance. Granted I only had a save in Valeia so I couldn't check the other two. Hope that helps with the subject.

WillowIX · 09-28-2002, 11:44 AM

So at least the game works with extracted townhub files. Now we only need to find a test person who can´t leave towns... I´d describe the difference between the hub files and the msk files a bit differently. The important ones are the townmsk, the buildings are marked out. The hub files are decorative. Think of it as a table with a nice tablecloth. The table is what you use, the cloth is only there to make it look better

I´m not sure the gates counts as buildings though...

macoati · 09-28-2002, 02:10 PM

That's definitely a better description than I had in my head Willow... I could always uninstall WW from my laptop and reinstall and see if doing just the hub files fixed the issue. Let me know if you'd like to see that done, ok?

WillowIX · 09-28-2002, 03:22 PM

If you have the time and the energy to do that, it would be great Macoati! Have you ever had the problem? That you can´t exit a gate? I´ve never had that problem myself. If you have that prob please do it. BTW there´s no need to re-install hte game. Simply copy the town*.zvi files from CD1 to the correct folder and you´ll be good to go

macoati · 09-28-2002, 07:54 PM

Should be even simpler than that... I believe I saved the original files in a new location so I should simply be able to copy them back... yes, the first time I play WW on XP I was unable to leave by the left-hand gate in Valeia...same thing with the W2k installation on the laptop. I'll get that done later tonight and report back.

09-26-2002, 05:01 PM	#1
WillowIX Apophis Join Date: July 10, 2001 Location: By a big blue lake, Canada Age: 50 Posts: 4,628	Just a though for the people not being able to exit the gates. Now the townmsk.avi files are the "movies" for towns. BUT there are 3 other avi files in the same folder, the townhub.avi files. Now all those files are needed for the towns but only the townmsk´s are needed for the interior. The townhubs are needed for the exterior and the gates aren´t leading to a building, just an end to viewing an avi-clip. Could it be that simple as to extract ALL avi files in the avi folder? Every opinion is appreciated [img]smile.gif[/img] ! [ 09-26-2002, 05:02 PM: Message edited by: WillowIX ] __________________ Confuzzled by nature.

09-26-2002, 05:16 PM	#2
Jafin Symbol of Cyric Join Date: May 24, 2001 Location: The Lands of Forever Age: 39 Posts: 1,132	Hmmmm.... I'm not really sure. It seems to me that if you extracted all of the avi files you'd disable towns all together causing more problems. I think I'll try it though just to check out what happens. Of course, I don't have the problem of not being able to leave towns but it might give us a little insight as to what'll happen if you do extract them. Ummm.... as a side note, do you mean extract as in remove the file from the folder or is it something else. 'Cuz if you meant something else I just made a complete fool of myself [img]smile.gif[/img] -Jafin __________________ [img]\"http://publish.hometown.aol.com/wolviejon/myhomepage/new_sig_image.jpg?mtbrand=AOL_US\" alt=\" - \" /><br />Proprietor of the Boogre Bar<br />And this is Bob, Chief Mischief Preventer of the Boogre Bar <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[elf]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/elf.gif\" />

09-26-2002, 06:20 PM	#5
Bungleau 40th Level Warrior Join Date: October 29, 2001 Location: Western Wilds of Michigan Posts: 11,752	I think that makes eminent sense. If you can't access the stuff in town because the town files are compressed, you probably can't access the stuff outside of town for the same reason. At the very least, it shouldn't hurt too much... Now, to find a suc^h^h^h volunteer to test it out. I don't run W&W on Win2k or higher, so I can't help. Any other takers? __________________ B Save Early, Save Often Save Before, Save After Two-Star General, Spelling Soldiers -+-+-+ Give 'em a hug one more time. It might be the last.

09-28-2002, 11:24 AM	#6
macoati Manshoon Join Date: February 27, 2002 Location: WY Age: 55 Posts: 184	Sorry, was on the road and didn't have my login info for the forum: I had W2k on my laptop and intalled WW. I did the Vdub fix on the townmask.avi files immediately. The graphics for the townmask files seem to be the 'negative' of the townhub files. I think the townmask files set the 'active' or 'clickable' locations into the townhub files. Viewing the townhub files through virtualdub they appear the be each town graphics files as they are seen by you when you are in each respective town. These files are also compressed. I re-saved the townhub.avi files as "old format AVI" just like the townmask files and saw absolutely NO difference in game performance. Granted I only had a save in Valeia so I couldn't check the other two. Hope that helps with the subject. __________________ Macoati

09-28-2002, 02:10 PM	#8
macoati Manshoon Join Date: February 27, 2002 Location: WY Age: 55 Posts: 184	That's definitely a better description than I had in my head Willow... I could always uninstall WW from my laptop and reinstall and see if doing just the hub files fixed the issue. Let me know if you'd like to see that done, ok? __________________ Macoati

09-26-2002, 05:24 PM	#3
WillowIX Apophis Join Date: July 10, 2001 Location: By a big blue lake, Canada Age: 50 Posts: 4,628	rotflmao!!! I´m sorry Jafin but I can´t just stop laughing.. No I don´t mean to "extract them from the folder" but to "extract them with Virtualdub", like you do when you can´t enter the guilds (the classical win2000 bug)... I wouldn´t recommend removing the files from the folder since you´d probably wouldn´t like what you´ll see. Feel free to try though and tell me if you see red, yellow, green, red or blue shapes resembling the buildnings of Valeia [img]smile.gif[/img]

09-28-2002, 11:44 AM	#7
WillowIX Apophis Join Date: July 10, 2001 Location: By a big blue lake, Canada Age: 50 Posts: 4,628	So at least the game works with extracted townhub files. Now we only need to find a test person who can´t leave towns... I´d describe the difference between the hub files and the msk files a bit differently. The important ones are the townmsk, the buildings are marked out. The hub files are decorative. Think of it as a table with a nice tablecloth. The table is what you use, the cloth is only there to make it look better I´m not sure the gates counts as buildings though...

09-28-2002, 03:22 PM	#9
WillowIX Apophis Join Date: July 10, 2001 Location: By a big blue lake, Canada Age: 50 Posts: 4,628	If you have the time and the energy to do that, it would be great Macoati! Have you ever had the problem? That you can´t exit a gate? I´ve never had that problem myself. If you have that prob please do it. BTW there´s no need to re-install hte game. Simply copy the town*.zvi files from CD1 to the correct folder and you´ll be good to go

09-28-2002, 07:54 PM	#10
macoati Manshoon Join Date: February 27, 2002 Location: WY Age: 55 Posts: 184	Should be even simpler than that... I believe I saved the original files in a new location so I should simply be able to copy them back... yes, the first time I play WW on XP I was unable to leave by the left-hand gate in Valeia...same thing with the W2k installation on the laptop. I'll get that done later tonight and report back. __________________ Macoati

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