What's lacking from Icewind dale

robohobodude · 05-20-2003, 01:50 AM

well as a fan of the AD&D forgotten realm games, i've had a chance to view the many aspects of what separates a mediocre game from an excellent game. Baldur's Gate and Baldur's gate 2 are both excellent games, and what i enjoyed most about them was their freedom. In the many areas of the game, there were countless quests (as well as class related quests) that ran outside of the main plot, this made the games enjoyable to play even after you've beaten it once. But as i go through icewind dale 2, i see the same repetitiveness as in icewind dale. you go from area to area, killing monsters and unwravelling a fairly straight forward plot without any outside quests and interesting characters. So far, this game has been quite a disapointment.

If there are any other things u feel icewind dale 2 is lacking, please share your opinion. And feel free to disagree with me as well.

cheers

Sir Heinrich Godfrie IV · 05-20-2003, 03:17 AM

Yeah, I share your pain.

I feel that they (the developers) COULD HAVE made a masterpiece out of IceWind Dale 2, if they only decided to take the time, the effort, and the possible costly risk of making a quality, non-linear game.

But... I have no say in the type of game they design and you have no say in the type of game they design.

So all we're left with is playing the game for what it's worth.

There's currently another related thread similar to this topic.

http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/cg...;f=23;t=001064

[ 05-20-2003, 03:19 AM: Message edited by: Sir Heinrich Godfrie IV ]

Luvian · 05-21-2003, 04:35 PM

The game IS good for what it is. Both Icewind Dale games have been made linear on purpose. This is not Baldur's Gate III, this is Icewind Dale, a dungeon crawl adventure game.

Complaining about Icewind Dale being linear and action based is like complaining about a Romance movie not having enough gore, which would be ridiculous.

If all you want to play is Baldur's Gate, then simply stop buying new games and play Bladur's Gate and the fan made mods. No other game will ever be Baldur's Gate because no one is trying to create a Baldur's Gate remake.

pritchke · 05-21-2003, 04:51 PM

I have to agree Luvian. I have both the BG series and IWD series and I enjoy both series for different reasons and there are times I may play both. The BG series has more replayability but after awhile it is good to take a break and create parties for IWD or IWD2 to get away from BG. With IWD I like to create different parties and of various sizes. With BG I like to stick with six characters and try various combinations of NPC's to see how they interact. Saying one or the other games sucks is crazy. Personally I would not want IWD to be like BG because than it would be basically BG and take away the reasons I do enjoy playing IWD.

[ 05-21-2003, 04:51 PM: Message edited by: pritchke ]

05-20-2003, 01:50 AM	#1
robohobodude The Magister Join Date: January 8, 2002 Location: b.c. Posts: 114	well as a fan of the AD&D forgotten realm games, i've had a chance to view the many aspects of what separates a mediocre game from an excellent game. Baldur's Gate and Baldur's gate 2 are both excellent games, and what i enjoyed most about them was their freedom. In the many areas of the game, there were countless quests (as well as class related quests) that ran outside of the main plot, this made the games enjoyable to play even after you've beaten it once. But as i go through icewind dale 2, i see the same repetitiveness as in icewind dale. you go from area to area, killing monsters and unwravelling a fairly straight forward plot without any outside quests and interesting characters. So far, this game has been quite a disapointment. If there are any other things u feel icewind dale 2 is lacking, please share your opinion. And feel free to disagree with me as well. cheers __________________ robohobo

05-20-2003, 03:17 AM	#2
Sir Heinrich Godfrie IV Zhentarim Guard Join Date: May 19, 2002 Location: Land of 10,000 Lakes (Minneapolis, MN, USA) Age: 42 Posts: 315	Yeah, I share your pain. I feel that they (the developers) COULD HAVE made a masterpiece out of IceWind Dale 2, if they only decided to take the time, the effort, and the possible costly risk of making a quality, non-linear game. But... I have no say in the type of game they design and you have no say in the type of game they design. So all we're left with is playing the game for what it's worth. There's currently another related thread similar to this topic. http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/cg...;f=23;t=001064 [ 05-20-2003, 03:19 AM: Message edited by: Sir Heinrich Godfrie IV ] __________________ \"The Earth is NOT your Mother!\"<br /><br />\"The chief cause of failure is trading what we want most, for what we want at the moment.\"<br />-Unknown

05-21-2003, 04:35 PM	#3
Luvian Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 27, 2001 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Age: 43 Posts: 6,763	The game IS good for what it is. Both Icewind Dale games have been made linear on purpose. This is not Baldur's Gate III, this is Icewind Dale, a dungeon crawl adventure game. Complaining about Icewind Dale being linear and action based is like complaining about a Romance movie not having enough gore, which would be ridiculous. If all you want to play is Baldur's Gate, then simply stop buying new games and play Bladur's Gate and the fan made mods. No other game will ever be Baldur's Gate because no one is trying to create a Baldur's Gate remake. __________________ Once upon a time in Canada...

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pritchke Bastet - Egyptian Cat Goddess Join Date: September 5, 2001 Location: Calgary, AB Age: 49 Posts: 3,491	I have to agree Luvian. I have both the BG series and IWD series and I enjoy both series for different reasons and there are times I may play both. The BG series has more replayability but after awhile it is good to take a break and create parties for IWD or IWD2 to get away from BG. With IWD I like to create different parties and of various sizes. With BG I like to stick with six characters and try various combinations of NPC's to see how they interact. Saying one or the other games sucks is crazy. Personally I would not want IWD to be like BG because than it would be basically BG and take away the reasons I do enjoy playing IWD. [ 05-21-2003, 04:51 PM: Message edited by: pritchke ]

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