Help! Calzone and the Don Keep Attacking Me

MountainMan · 02-20-2002, 05:54 AM

Help, I never get a chance to talk to Milano Calzone. Whenever he appears he just attacks me. Same with the Don. I have defeated Calzone but even with fairly hefty fighters I only make the slightest few hp dent in the Don. I thought I might have missed some clue so I started way back and replayed the game, but Calzone still attacks me. Why????

Gimli · 02-20-2002, 06:15 AM

This was happening to me as well, it was because I had killed Rattus Rattus - check your faction ratings in the journal, I bet the Rakuza are "hostile" towards you.

As for whacking the Don, I did it at 9th level; used this strategy. Bought all the front line chars granite potions and potions of razor cloak, also had a couple of superman ones. Round 1 I opened his door, backed up into the hall way a little and cast a sonic boom to get his attention. I got 2 rounds to prepare before we went at it, by then I had quaffed lots of potions and had my casters also place some guardian angels on the fighters. When you fight him, forget magic, he's mostly immune, just use that to cure your chars. Also you might want to give each one a potion of restoration to deal with any poison and damage he can do. If you can get a canned elemental that is nice as well, or cast it if you've got any pure 11th level casters.

skywalker · 02-20-2002, 08:08 AM

So you know, you can't cast Summon Elemental in the room where the Don is. I tried very hard and there is just not enough headroom to allow you to cast it. I read somewhere that the canned ones will work, though.

I ended up luring Barlone outside and got to cast S E, but it ended up that the Elemental was pretty much useless. I had better luck using the same strategy with potions that you suggested, Gimli.

You get some good stuff from killing him, too, especially if you have a Fairy Ninja in the group. Killing him is a must do, IMHO.

Mark

Gothmog Lord of the Balrogs · 02-20-2002, 08:25 AM

Spoil me please, I have a Faerie Ninja in one of my parties, what is his equipment?

skywalker · 02-20-2002, 08:31 AM

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Originally posted by Gothmog Lord of the Balrogs:
Spoil me please, I have a Faerie Ninja in one of my parties, what is his equipment?

Spoil you!
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The Cane of Corpus! I can't recall the damage it does (I'm at work and don't have the specs), but it does at least 40 damage and has some other features I can't remember (a little help,..anyone?)...one of the best weapons in the game and only a Fairy Ninja can use it. My Ninja now hits for some big points now that I got it. Save before the fight as the Don doesn't always drop it.

Mark

Gothmog Lord of the Balrogs · 02-20-2002, 08:56 AM

Oh, the infamous Cane of Corpus. Believe I read something about it on some board, 100% poison 50% paralyze and XX% Kill, If I remember coorectly! Any good reasons not to kill them?

skywalker · 02-20-2002, 09:01 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Gothmog Lord of the Balrogs:
Oh, the infamous Cane of Corpus. Believe I read something about it on some board, 100% poison 50% paralyze and XX% Kill, If I remember coorectly! Any good reasons not to kill them?

The only problem is that the Cane is cursed (I don't mind, really).

As far as I know, there is no good reason to keep them alive!

Mark

Gothmog Lord of the Balrogs · 02-20-2002, 09:05 AM

All the good weapons I've found so far (never played any party passed Trynton [img]smile.gif[/img] like to check out different classes races and combos) has been cursed but that is not a problem with a bishop in my party. Is there any way to mix parties? Kick out the some from a party and important some from another?

Nightowl2 · 02-20-2002, 12:52 PM

Well, I've never killed the Don, but then there was no need, since I've never had a faerie ninja in the party. He is honest with you; that is, you pay his price and he gives you the real Astral Dominae. All he cares about is getting his cash.

Besides, I don't believe in killing people who are not overtly hostile (well, Crock may be an exception

).

Nightowl2

Gimli · 02-20-2002, 12:58 PM

Well since Rattus Rattus gives your party a note which if actually give to Lorrac at the bank in Arnika makes you have to kill her and a bunch og guards, I thought he was worthy of being killed. Then the Don had to go because he was upset about his rat boy and was attacking me.

There's no way to bring other party members into a different party (save using save game editors). But you can replace any member with a new 1st level character.

In my game, because of Rattus Rattus and the Rattkin breeders, my party basically declared jihad on all Rattkin and wiped em all out

02-20-2002, 06:15 AM	#2
Gimli Emerald Dragon Join Date: January 12, 2002 Location: Moria Posts: 912	This was happening to me as well, it was because I had killed Rattus Rattus - check your faction ratings in the journal, I bet the Rakuza are "hostile" towards you. As for whacking the Don, I did it at 9th level; used this strategy. Bought all the front line chars granite potions and potions of razor cloak, also had a couple of superman ones. Round 1 I opened his door, backed up into the hall way a little and cast a sonic boom to get his attention. I got 2 rounds to prepare before we went at it, by then I had quaffed lots of potions and had my casters also place some guardian angels on the fighters. When you fight him, forget magic, he's mostly immune, just use that to cure your chars. Also you might want to give each one a potion of restoration to deal with any poison and damage he can do. If you can get a canned elemental that is nice as well, or cast it if you've got any pure 11th level casters. __________________ There\'s one dwarf left in Moria that still draws breath!

02-20-2002, 08:25 AM	#4
Gothmog Lord of the Balrogs Dungeon Master Join Date: February 4, 2002 Location: Norway Posts: 71	Spoil me please, I have a Faerie Ninja in one of my parties, what is his equipment? __________________ Better to reign in hell than to serve in heaven<br />----------------------------------<br />This is Unix land.<br />In quiet nights you can hear M$-Windoze machines reboot.

02-20-2002, 08:31 AM	#5
skywalker Banned User Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: VT, USA Age: 63 Posts: 3,097	quote: Originally posted by Gothmog Lord of the Balrogs: Spoil me please, I have a Faerie Ninja in one of my parties, what is his equipment? Spoil you! . . . . . . . . . . . . . The Cane of Corpus! I can't recall the damage it does (I'm at work and don't have the specs), but it does at least 40 damage and has some other features I can't remember (a little help,..anyone?)...one of the best weapons in the game and only a Fairy Ninja can use it. My Ninja now hits for some big points now that I got it. Save before the fight as the Don doesn't always drop it. Mark

02-20-2002, 08:56 AM	#6
Gothmog Lord of the Balrogs Dungeon Master Join Date: February 4, 2002 Location: Norway Posts: 71	Oh, the infamous Cane of Corpus. Believe I read something about it on some board, 100% poison 50% paralyze and XX% Kill, If I remember coorectly! Any good reasons not to kill them? __________________ Better to reign in hell than to serve in heaven<br />----------------------------------<br />This is Unix land.<br />In quiet nights you can hear M$-Windoze machines reboot.

02-20-2002, 09:01 AM	#7
skywalker Banned User Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: VT, USA Age: 63 Posts: 3,097	quote: Originally posted by Gothmog Lord of the Balrogs: Oh, the infamous Cane of Corpus. Believe I read something about it on some board, 100% poison 50% paralyze and XX% Kill, If I remember coorectly! Any good reasons not to kill them? The only problem is that the Cane is cursed (I don't mind, really). As far as I know, there is no good reason to keep them alive! Mark

02-20-2002, 05:54 AM	#1
MountainMan Welcomed New User Join Date: February 20, 2002 Location: Clarion, PA Posts: 1	Help, I never get a chance to talk to Milano Calzone. Whenever he appears he just attacks me. Same with the Don. I have defeated Calzone but even with fairly hefty fighters I only make the slightest few hp dent in the Don. I thought I might have missed some clue so I started way back and replayed the game, but Calzone still attacks me. Why????

02-20-2002, 08:08 AM	#3
skywalker Banned User Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: VT, USA Age: 63 Posts: 3,097	So you know, you can't cast Summon Elemental in the room where the Don is. I tried very hard and there is just not enough headroom to allow you to cast it. I read somewhere that the canned ones will work, though. I ended up luring Barlone outside and got to cast S E, but it ended up that the Elemental was pretty much useless. I had better luck using the same strategy with potions that you suggested, Gimli. You get some good stuff from killing him, too, especially if you have a Fairy Ninja in the group. Killing him is a must do, IMHO. Mark

02-20-2002, 09:05 AM	#8
Gothmog Lord of the Balrogs Dungeon Master Join Date: February 4, 2002 Location: Norway Posts: 71	All the good weapons I've found so far (never played any party passed Trynton [img]smile.gif[/img] like to check out different classes races and combos) has been cursed but that is not a problem with a bishop in my party. Is there any way to mix parties? Kick out the some from a party and important some from another? __________________ Better to reign in hell than to serve in heaven<br />----------------------------------<br />This is Unix land.<br />In quiet nights you can hear M$-Windoze machines reboot.

02-20-2002, 12:52 PM	#9
Nightowl2 Galvatron Join Date: December 11, 2001 Location: Plateau of Leng Age: 46 Posts: 2,190	Well, I've never killed the Don, but then there was no need, since I've never had a faerie ninja in the party. He is honest with you; that is, you pay his price and he gives you the real Astral Dominae. All he cares about is getting his cash. Besides, I don't believe in killing people who are not overtly hostile (well, Crock may be an exception ). Nightowl2

02-20-2002, 12:58 PM	#10
Gimli Emerald Dragon Join Date: January 12, 2002 Location: Moria Posts: 912	Well since Rattus Rattus gives your party a note which if actually give to Lorrac at the bank in Arnika makes you have to kill her and a bunch og guards, I thought he was worthy of being killed. Then the Don had to go because he was upset about his rat boy and was attacking me. There's no way to bring other party members into a different party (save using save game editors). But you can replace any member with a new 1st level character. In my game, because of Rattus Rattus and the Rattkin breeders, my party basically declared jihad on all Rattkin and wiped em all out __________________ There\'s one dwarf left in Moria that still draws breath!

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