Help from people in Germany needed!

Falco? geez, I thought he only did that one song....Rock Me Ammadeus back when the Mozart movie was all the rage.

[Faceman]

OOps, wrong language.
Anyway I was only telling that most Austrians make a big deal about we were in NO way involved in WWII atrocities, when in fact a significant amount of SS-officers and concentration camp commanders have been Austrian.
Of course it was not Austria's (the country's) fault. The country is just mountains, plains, woods and rivers.
It was the people's fault and they didn't become completely different persons in 1945 when they suddenly were Austrians again and no longer Germans.

[Faceman]

Falco did a lot of songs. Most of them very popular in Austria and Germany. But "Amadeus" was the only Austrian song ever to be No.1 on the US Billboard.

[Yorick]

Originally posted by Faceman: Almost forgot the obvious geography lesson. I am NOT from Germany but from Austria, which is the small country to the south of Germany. We are NOT a part of Germany as we were liberated by the Allied forces in 1945.

Yet "ruled" the German Empire for generations. A Hapsburg anyone?

[Faceman]

Habsburg with a "b"
Although they made Austria their home to rule the Holy Roman empire of Germany from Vienna for centuries the Habsburg family originated in Switzerland.

Hab = shortened Habicht - German for Hawk
s = "Genitive"
burg = castle, stronghold

They came from a castle named "Habichtsburg" (Hawk's Castle) which later shortened to Habsburg.

[ 05-30-2003, 10:59 AM: Message edited by: Faceman ]

[Ramon de Ramon y Ramon]

Originally posted by Faceman: Hey unsere ganze Nation gründet sich darauf Euch Deutschen die Schuld am zweiten Weltkrieg zuzuschieben. Ein Grund für unsere vergleichsweise lächerliche Vergangenheitsbewältigung.

Solange Du Dir der Fragwürdigkeit dieser arg simplifizierenden Geschichtsauffassung bewußt bist, und das scheint ja voll und ganz der Fall zu sein, habe ich keinerlei Problem damit. [img]smile.gif[/img] Und ich verstehe auch voll und ganz, daß man als Angehöriger einer vergleichsweisen kleinen und jungen Nation (wenn auch andererseits mit langer regionaler Tradition und reicher Geschichte) sehr erpicht ist, nicht verwechselt oder gar vom großen Nachbarn vereinnahmt zu werden. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Ramon de Ramon y Ramon]

Originally posted by Faceman: Habsburg with a "b" Although they made Austria their home to rule the Holy Roman empire of Germany from Vienna for centuries the Habsburg family originated in Switzerland. Hab = shortened Habicht - German for Hawk s = "Genitive" burg = castle, stronghold They came from a castle named "Habichtsburg" (Hawk's Castle) which later shortened to Habsburg.

Shh, Faceman, I was about to point out exactly the same to Yorick, but then I checked and for some reason Habsburg is indeed spelt Hapsburg in English.

[Faceman]

"Habsburg" is also a possible spelling in English, though. And I can't quite see why anyone should change the spelling of a name except if there was a problem with the lacking availability of some special letters as in "Schrödinger". So I can understand "Schrodinger" but not "Schrotinger".
Is it me or is this threat becoming a little bit like the "über"-discussion?

[ 05-30-2003, 11:15 AM: Message edited by: Faceman ]

[Ramon de Ramon y Ramon]

I couldn't agree more: changing the spelling of proper names seems indeed odd, but is on the other hand rather common for names of longstanding importance, just think of examples like "Bourbonen" or all the first names of foreign rulers from history that are usually referred to by the German versions of their names (e.g. "Heinrich der achte" for Henry the eighth).

[Faceman]

[img]graemlins/jumpclap.gif[/img] I'm Henry the Eight I am
Henry the Eight I am, I am
I got married to a widow next door
She's been married seve times before
... [img]graemlins/jumpclap.gif[/img]

*Taking the topic somewhere completely else* [img]graemlins/treadmill.gif[/img]