Meddling with supernatural forces

K T Ong · 07-11-2002, 08:58 AM

Many people seem to be dismissive of the occult as a fat load of hogwash. But I'm apt to wonder if one would receive the same response if the same sceptics were presented with certain allegedly real occult practices which are claimed to yield actual results if one really tried them. Such as, say, a ritual magic spell involving drawing magic circles and lighting candles, etc. Would you shy away with a certain vague feeling of uneasiness because something in your mind makes you think there might be 'something' to it -- something which, once set in motion, might be disastrous? Or would you still laugh it off -- perhaps even try it just for a few laughs and just to show yourself and everyone that it's all hogwash?

johnny · 07-11-2002, 09:00 AM

I believe there are things we humans can hardly understand, i don't need proof of that.

07-11-2002, 09:10 AM

But Johnny, you are indeed living proof of that!!! [img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img]

Madman-Rogovich · 07-11-2002, 09:12 AM

meow avi [img]smile.gif[/img]

one thing i beleive is that anything is possible i think that keeps me nicely openminded

[ 07-11-2002, 09:13 AM: Message edited by: Madman-Rogovich ]

uss · 07-11-2002, 09:38 AM

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Originally posted by Aviendha:
But Johnny, you are indeed living proof of that!!! [img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img]

You sure got that right [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]

i really don`t belive in supernatural forces.. would be cool though [img]smile.gif[/img]

Jorath Calar · 07-11-2002, 10:07 AM

It doesn't matter if it exists or not. If unbeatable facts about all supernatural phenemons would surface Humans wouldn't be ready to understand it anyway and dismiss it... [img]smile.gif[/img]

Sir Kenyth · 07-11-2002, 11:38 AM

Perhaps there are supernatural forces. I doubt candles, chants, and circles have anything to do with it except being decorations for human tastes.

Lioness · 07-11-2002, 11:40 AM

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Originally posted by Sir Kenyth:
Perhaps there are supernatural forces. I doubt candles, chants, and circles have anything to do with it except being decorations for human tastes.

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Azred · 07-11-2002, 12:12 PM

All the clothing, candles, and obejcts, etc. are designed to evoke a certain mood, to facilitate a certain emotional/meditative state needed to focus on the energies at hand. Trying to manipulate these forces without the proper study, experience/training, and maturity can be dangerous; if not physically then psychologically, because you would not be ready for it. Your first experiences with supernatural forces are the most formative; as with children, abuse suffered early can scar for life.

Sir Kenyth · 07-11-2002, 12:44 PM

I feel I must comment that I primarily see things such as magic, spiritual commune, psychics, witchcraft, etc. as faciful fantasy and the stuff of con-men and sleight of hand experts. Look at the testimonials of some psychics who turned honest and showed how it was done. The only thing supernatural is the cleverness at how it's done!

07-11-2002, 08:58 AM	#1
K T Ong Symbol of Cyric Join Date: January 27, 2002 Location: Plateau of Singapore Age: 61 Posts: 1,230	Many people seem to be dismissive of the occult as a fat load of hogwash. But I'm apt to wonder if one would receive the same response if the same sceptics were presented with certain allegedly real occult practices which are claimed to yield actual results if one really tried them. Such as, say, a ritual magic spell involving drawing magic circles and lighting candles, etc. Would you shy away with a certain vague feeling of uneasiness because something in your mind makes you think there might be 'something' to it -- something which, once set in motion, might be disastrous? Or would you still laugh it off -- perhaps even try it just for a few laughs and just to show yourself and everyone that it's all hogwash? __________________ <br />Look! Everyone\'s admiring me! <img border=\"0\" title=\"\" alt=\"[Big Grin]\" src=\"biggrin.gif\" />

07-11-2002, 09:00 AM	#2
johnny 40th Level Warrior Join Date: April 15, 2002 Location: Utrecht The Netherlands Age: 58 Posts: 16,981	I believe there are things we humans can hardly understand, i don't need proof of that. __________________

07-11-2002, 09:12 AM	#4
Madman-Rogovich Lord Soth Join Date: October 23, 2001 Location: Edinburgh Age: 38 Posts: 1,918	meow avi [img]smile.gif[/img] one thing i beleive is that anything is possible i think that keeps me nicely openminded [ 07-11-2002, 09:13 AM: Message edited by: Madman-Rogovich ] __________________ One room, one axe, one outcome.

07-11-2002, 11:38 AM	#7
Sir Kenyth Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: August 30, 2001 Location: somewhere Age: 54 Posts: 1,785	Perhaps there are supernatural forces. I doubt candles, chants, and circles have anything to do with it except being decorations for human tastes. __________________ Master Barbsman and wielder of the razor wit!<br /><br />There are dark angels among us. They present themselves in shining raiment but there is, in their hearts, the blackness of the abyss.

07-11-2002, 12:12 PM	#9
Azred Drow Priestess Join Date: March 13, 2001 Location: a hidden sanctorum high above the metroplex Age: 54 Posts: 4,037	All the clothing, candles, and obejcts, etc. are designed to evoke a certain mood, to facilitate a certain emotional/meditative state needed to focus on the energies at hand. Trying to manipulate these forces without the proper study, experience/training, and maturity can be dangerous; if not physically then psychologically, because you would not be ready for it. Your first experiences with supernatural forces are the most formative; as with children, abuse suffered early can scar for life. __________________ Everything may be explained by a conspiracy theory. All conspiracy theories are true. No matter how thinly you slice it, it's still bologna.

07-11-2002, 09:10 AM	#3
lroyo Guest Posts: n/a	But Johnny, you are indeed living proof of that!!! [img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img]

07-11-2002, 10:07 AM	#6
Jorath Calar Harper Join Date: October 6, 2001 Location: Iceland Posts: 4,706	It doesn't matter if it exists or not. If unbeatable facts about all supernatural phenemons would surface Humans wouldn't be ready to understand it anyway and dismiss it... [img]smile.gif[/img]

07-11-2002, 12:44 PM	#10
Sir Kenyth Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: August 30, 2001 Location: somewhere Age: 54 Posts: 1,785	I feel I must comment that I primarily see things such as magic, spiritual commune, psychics, witchcraft, etc. as faciful fantasy and the stuff of con-men and sleight of hand experts. Look at the testimonials of some psychics who turned honest and showed how it was done. The only thing supernatural is the cleverness at how it's done! __________________ Master Barbsman and wielder of the razor wit!<br /><br />There are dark angels among us. They present themselves in shining raiment but there is, in their hearts, the blackness of the abyss.

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