Technical problem... help needed... - Page 2

LennonCook · 06-08-2003, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Luvian:
It's a small hard drive, and yes, I have another computer here.

Ok, try this:
Set your HDD that is having the problems up in the other computer. Set it up *alone* to start with, and see if you still have problems. If you do, set it up as a slave to the other one, and format it. Put it back into the computer it came from, reinstall Windows (again). See if that helps. If that fails, try getting a program which can do a low-level format, and do one.
If you get the same problems, it isn't a dying/diseased HDD. Try testing your processer in the other machine, then the RAM, then the video card. Once you've found what bit's dying, replace it, and it should fix it.

[ 06-08-2003, 06:14 AM: Message edited by: LennonCook ]

Bahamut · 06-08-2003, 06:11 AM

usually when fatal errors occur, it is a hardware prob... is your fan still working, nothing burned up, etc.

hope you find it soon

WillowIX · 06-08-2003, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bahamut:
usually when fatal errors occur, it is a hardware prob... is your fan still working, nothing burned up, etc.

hope you find it soon

I use Windows 2000 and got these kinds of error messages as well. Critical something something, then a blue screen and reboot. My problem was heat (one of my fans went on strike). I now use Speedfan to monitor the temperatures inside my computer. It lists hdd, cpu and one more (motherboard I believe) temperature. Best of all it's free. http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php You could check your temperatures and see if they are too high. That could explain the crashing.

Epona · 06-08-2003, 08:49 AM

Fans - open the case and start the pc - you'll be able to see if any fans aren't working.

RAM - use the memory tester that someone posted a link to earlier in the thread (my pc had identical symptoms and it turned out to be faulty RAM)

HDD - try it in your other PC

Keryvian · 06-08-2003, 11:06 AM

I just want to put in another recommendation for checking the RAM. I just recently reloaded my system after having some intermittent (and difficult to troubleshoot) problems that turned out to be due to bad RAM. You definitely need to run something like the test listed above. The standard memory check that runs when you boot your PC is virtually useless.

Luvian · 06-08-2003, 02:04 PM

I only have one fan, and it's the one in the power supply.

As for what the speedfan told me, it look like bad news. Fan is at 0 rpm and Temp -119c

And in the S.M.A.R.T. page, the hard drive has about 80% fitness and 100% performance.

About the RAM test... my floppy disk reader is broken so it make things a little harder. I'll burn the cd version when I get the time.

The problem with testing my hard drive in another computer is that the bugs don't happen all the time. Right now, I'm having no bugs, my computer is running perfectly except for the explorer crash I got a few minutes ago. I guess I'll test this last.

[ 06-08-2003, 02:07 PM: Message edited by: Luvian ]

skywalker · 06-08-2003, 02:22 PM

If the fan in the powersupply is not spinning that could cause lots of problems. Replace the power supply ASAP.

Mark

Luvian · 06-08-2003, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by skywalker:
If the fan in the powersupply is not spinning that could cause lots of problems. Replace the power supply ASAP.

Mark

It's working, when I put my hand next to it I can feel air coming out.

Paladin2000 · 06-08-2003, 02:30 PM

Come to think of it, you need at least 2 fans. One is on top of the CPU and the other one is in the power supply unit. Also, if you are using the latest ATX casing, you could buy additional fans to mount inside. This will improve the circulation and heat ventilation. If your problem is caused by overheating, you can give this a try.

Luvian · 06-08-2003, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Paladin2000:
Come to think of it, you need at least 2 fans. One is on top of the CPU and the other one is in the power supply unit. Also, if you are using the latest ATX casing, you could buy additional fans to mount inside. This will improve the circulation and heat ventilation. If your problem is caused by overheating, you can give this a try.

It's a 4 years old computer, the casing seem pretty basic.

I'm not sure if my computer is having heat problem, the air coming out doesn't seem that hot to me.

06-08-2003, 06:11 AM	#12
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06-08-2003, 11:06 AM	#15
Keryvian The Magister Join Date: May 9, 2001 Location: mile high city, US Posts: 131	I just want to put in another recommendation for checking the RAM. I just recently reloaded my system after having some intermittent (and difficult to troubleshoot) problems that turned out to be due to bad RAM. You definitely need to run something like the test listed above. The standard memory check that runs when you boot your PC is virtually useless. __________________ Nid yw\'r hoff o lyfr yn fyr o gyfaill.

06-08-2003, 02:30 PM	#19
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06-08-2003, 02:04 PM	#16
Luvian Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 27, 2001 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Age: 43 Posts: 6,763	I only have one fan, and it's the one in the power supply. As for what the speedfan told me, it look like bad news. Fan is at 0 rpm and Temp -119c And in the S.M.A.R.T. page, the hard drive has about 80% fitness and 100% performance. About the RAM test... my floppy disk reader is broken so it make things a little harder. I'll burn the cd version when I get the time. The problem with testing my hard drive in another computer is that the bugs don't happen all the time. Right now, I'm having no bugs, my computer is running perfectly except for the explorer crash I got a few minutes ago. I guess I'll test this last. [ 06-08-2003, 02:07 PM: Message edited by: Luvian ]

06-08-2003, 02:22 PM	#17
skywalker Banned User Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: VT, USA Age: 63 Posts: 3,097	If the fan in the powersupply is not spinning that could cause lots of problems. Replace the power supply ASAP. Mark

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