Criminals - Page 3

norompanlasolas · 01-14-2002, 06:16 AM

quote:
Originally posted by 250:
you two dont know shit, so quit it

nice. interesting debates with enlightened persons that know shit is always welcomed. excuse me whilst i take a few hours to ponder the depth of your excellently phrased response. good day to you.

Lifetime · 01-14-2002, 06:28 AM

Cool it people, let us not let tempers flare here. I believe that all can be forgiven, and no crime unpardonable, so long as forgiveness and pardon is earned. If a man who has forfeited 20 years of his life in jail to ponder upon what he has done, and decides to change, should he not be given as much opportunity as anyone else to live? Passion has no room in government because it gets in the way of good decency and common sense. What might be true to 250 might not hold true for anyone else, but in government all people are represented, and all people have say.
250, if you're not human when it comes to murderers and rapists, you forfeit your right to be treated as one, because if murderers and rapists weren't human for several moments when they commited those crimes, and are punished for it, then I should think you are no less deserving of the same fate you have prescribed.
You may be human, but for those moments in your life when you look at a murderer in the eye and tell him he doesnt have the right to live, you arent a person.

250 · 01-14-2002, 06:41 AM

my answer is so ■■■■■■■ what?

AzureWolf · 01-14-2002, 07:08 AM

quote:
Originally posted by 250:
you two dont know shit, so quit it

For gods sakes 250 stop this will you!

You seem to think that you CANNOT be possibly wrong and that anything you say should be taken as scripture.
If you want to add to a debate than add to it! But a debate is an argument based on DIFFERING opinions and views which you seem to think incomprehensible.
Grow up.

Barry the Sprout · 01-14-2002, 07:17 AM

Thats just beautiful 250. An argument that transcends the normal bounds of reason and leaps straight into the subconscious via swearwords. I used to be a socialist but now I am seriosly considering changing my entire philosiphy.

Anyway, what I have to say seriously is that everyone is a human being. Whatever they are doing they are still human. I don't think that we have the right to kill them and I don't think it will help anything either. Is executing a murderer going to stop other people murdering? It appears not because America has a higher crime rate than Britain despite many states relying on capital punishment. So what does it solve? Does it make us feel better? I don't know. Anyway, thats what I think on the matter.

250 · 01-14-2002, 07:26 AM

Aurewolf, you are telling me to what? grow up? while you dont know the least thing about it, funny

I tell you what, there is no excuse for murder or rape. any one of your people was raped? has any one of your family members being murdered?? talking about ■■■■■■■ forgiveness then!!!! loads of bullshit!

yeah they are humanbeing, just look at what they did to other "fellow human beings". a death sentence is the least deserving thing to the scum shit on my list. once they did what they did, they have no rights to be treated as humanbeings. let God do the forgiving job, we will arrange the meeting.

250 · 01-14-2002, 07:28 AM

quote:
Originally posted by AzureWolf:

You seem to think that you CANNOT be possibly wrong and that anything you say should be taken as scripture.

first of all I dont think like that. second, even if I do, is it your busines??? back off

Smeagol · 01-14-2002, 08:05 AM

allrite this debate is just becoming a slanging match. Can we not just leave it now.

Memnoch · 01-14-2002, 09:29 AM

250, you were out of line here, mate. Swearing at other people in a discussion and telling them that they "don't know shit" is not acceptable here and I thought you knew that by now.

If you feel emotionally/personally about a topic and can't discuss it in a civil manner, then don't discuss it at all. Walk away. No need to be so aggressive to other people who are just stating their opinion. I'm disappointed in you.

To everyone else: I'll keep this open but any more of this type of rubbish and this discussion is history. Is this clear?

Talthyr Malkaviel · 01-14-2002, 11:37 AM

Well, I'm actually quite glad that when I came back to this topic that there is quite a few people whose view is similar to mine, so obviously I'm not just a lone weirdo, but anyway, 250, you said that a murderer/rapist deserves to die slowly and painfully, but as I said earlier, that means you would be doing the exact same wrong as them (in the murderers case anyway) you would be taking someones life without the right to.
HOWEVER much they deserve to die.

01-14-2002, 06:16 AM	#21
norompanlasolas Avatar Join Date: November 13, 2001 Location: madrid, spain... made in argentina Age: 47 Posts: 569	quote: Originally posted by 250: you two dont know shit, so quit it nice. interesting debates with enlightened persons that know shit is always welcomed. excuse me whilst i take a few hours to ponder the depth of your excellently phrased response. good day to you. __________________ no

01-14-2002, 06:28 AM	#22
Lifetime Red Dragon Join Date: March 3, 2001 Location: Scotch College, Melbourne Posts: 1,503	Cool it people, let us not let tempers flare here. I believe that all can be forgiven, and no crime unpardonable, so long as forgiveness and pardon is earned. If a man who has forfeited 20 years of his life in jail to ponder upon what he has done, and decides to change, should he not be given as much opportunity as anyone else to live? Passion has no room in government because it gets in the way of good decency and common sense. What might be true to 250 might not hold true for anyone else, but in government all people are represented, and all people have say. 250, if you're not human when it comes to murderers and rapists, you forfeit your right to be treated as one, because if murderers and rapists weren't human for several moments when they commited those crimes, and are punished for it, then I should think you are no less deserving of the same fate you have prescribed. You may be human, but for those moments in your life when you look at a murderer in the eye and tell him he doesnt have the right to live, you arent a person. __________________ \'Cause its always raining in my head. Forget all the things I should have said..

01-14-2002, 07:08 AM	#24
AzureWolf 20th Level Warrior Join Date: May 3, 2001 Location: . Age: 40 Posts: 2,762	quote: Originally posted by 250: you two dont know shit, so quit it For gods sakes 250 stop this will you! You seem to think that you CANNOT be possibly wrong and that anything you say should be taken as scripture. If you want to add to a debate than add to it! But a debate is an argument based on DIFFERING opinions and views which you seem to think incomprehensible. Grow up.

01-14-2002, 07:28 AM	#27
250 Horus - Egyptian Sky God Join Date: March 4, 2001 Location: either CA or MO Age: 42 Posts: 2,674	quote: Originally posted by AzureWolf: You seem to think that you CANNOT be possibly wrong and that anything you say should be taken as scripture. first of all I dont think like that. second, even if I do, is it your busines??? back off

01-14-2002, 08:05 AM	#28
Smeagol Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: January 12, 2002 Location: Surrey, England. Posts: 47	allrite this debate is just becoming a slanging match. Can we not just leave it now. __________________ \"This is Preservation Month. I appreciate preservation. It\'s what you do when you run for President. You\'ve got to preserve.\"<p>President George W. Bush speaking during Perserverance month.<p>\"I see this glass not half empty, but half full... and more\"<p>President George Bush Sr.

01-14-2002, 06:41 AM	#23
250 Horus - Egyptian Sky God Join Date: March 4, 2001 Location: either CA or MO Age: 42 Posts: 2,674	my answer is so ■■■■■■■ what?

01-14-2002, 07:17 AM	#25
Barry the Sprout White Dragon Join Date: October 19, 2001 Location: York, UK. Age: 41 Posts: 1,815	Thats just beautiful 250. An argument that transcends the normal bounds of reason and leaps straight into the subconscious via swearwords. I used to be a socialist but now I am seriosly considering changing my entire philosiphy. Anyway, what I have to say seriously is that everyone is a human being. Whatever they are doing they are still human. I don't think that we have the right to kill them and I don't think it will help anything either. Is executing a murderer going to stop other people murdering? It appears not because America has a higher crime rate than Britain despite many states relying on capital punishment. So what does it solve? Does it make us feel better? I don't know. Anyway, thats what I think on the matter.

01-14-2002, 07:26 AM	#26
250 Horus - Egyptian Sky God Join Date: March 4, 2001 Location: either CA or MO Age: 42 Posts: 2,674	Aurewolf, you are telling me to what? grow up? while you dont know the least thing about it, funny I tell you what, there is no excuse for murder or rape. any one of your people was raped? has any one of your family members being murdered?? talking about ■■■■■■■ forgiveness then!!!! loads of bullshit! yeah they are humanbeing, just look at what they did to other "fellow human beings". a death sentence is the least deserving thing to the scum shit on my list. once they did what they did, they have no rights to be treated as humanbeings. let God do the forgiving job, we will arrange the meeting.

01-14-2002, 09:29 AM	#29
Memnoch Ironworks Moderator Join Date: February 28, 2001 Location: Boston/Sydney Posts: 11,771	250, you were out of line here, mate. Swearing at other people in a discussion and telling them that they "don't know shit" is not acceptable here and I thought you knew that by now. If you feel emotionally/personally about a topic and can't discuss it in a civil manner, then don't discuss it at all. Walk away. No need to be so aggressive to other people who are just stating their opinion. I'm disappointed in you. To everyone else: I'll keep this open but any more of this type of rubbish and this discussion is history. Is this clear? __________________

01-14-2002, 11:37 AM	#30
Talthyr Malkaviel Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: August 31, 2001 Location: Land of the Britons Age: 37 Posts: 3,224	Well, I'm actually quite glad that when I came back to this topic that there is quite a few people whose view is similar to mine, so obviously I'm not just a lone weirdo, but anyway, 250, you said that a murderer/rapist deserves to die slowly and painfully, but as I said earlier, that means you would be doing the exact same wrong as them (in the murderers case anyway) you would be taking someones life without the right to. HOWEVER much they deserve to die. __________________ Resident cantankerous sorcerer of the Clan HADB<br />and Sorcerous Nuttella salesman of the O.R.T<br /> <br /><br />Say NO to the Trouser Tyranny! Can I drill you about this?

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