Helms Hold Spoiler Request

[perk31]

There is a chest in one of the cells at the bottome of Helm's Hold that I can't open. Tomi can't disable the trap, magic will not damage it and I can't survive springing the trap. I haven't been able to find a key that would open either. Can anyone tell me how to open this thing?

Thanks

[Tobbin]

Originally posted by perk31: There is a chest in one of the cells at the bottome of Helm's Hold that I can't open. Tomi can't disable the trap, magic will not damage it and I can't survive springing the trap. I haven't been able to find a key that would open either. Can anyone tell me how to open this thing? Thanks

If you have some Thieves Toolkits +10 or better, they would help you. It seems a Thief class is the only class that can do it. You need a DC around 32 or 35. There was a post on this earlier, but I can't remember what I used to do it. Other than that, it appeared invulnerable to every attack I did too it. If you don't have thief class, you probably won't get it open. Sorry. Tomi possibly could, but he would need to use the toolkit, which he doesn't do.

[perk31]

The chest has a dc of 34 for the trap and the lock. Tomi at lvl 8 couldn't do it. My pixie familiar is level 9 and was able to disarm the trap, but I had to possess her in order to make her unlock the chest. Tomi at lvl 9 might be able to do it, but I don't think you can be level 10 by now.

[Dreamer128]

Hm.. whats in the chest? Random treasure?

[perk31]

Yes. I've reloaded about 9 times now and every item in the chest except for one has been excellent. I'm not sure how you would get into it though without the pixie since tomi wouldn't touch it. It's well worth the effort though.

[Ar-Cunin]

I have a fighter with skill in open lock, tomi's ring, Lesser amulet of the master and a +6 lockpick and managed to open the lock. I still had to take damage from the chest (around 90 hp), so only fighter-classes can survive that.

[Tobbin]

Originally posted by Ar-Cunin: I have a fighter with skill in open lock, tomi's ring, Lesser amulet of the master and a +6 lockpick and managed to open the lock. I still had to take damage from the chest (around 90 hp), so only fighter-classes can survive that.

Well, you do always have the respawn option. LOL. Open the chest, die, go back to the area you died and pick the lock. Course, I think Helm's Hold has a special area that you respawn too, not for sure. It's been a long time since I did Helm's Hold and I didn't die initially. Usually if I died, I was playing it online and someone casted resurrect on me. Anyways, the treasure is pretty decent. Since I was a tri-class, I seemed to get a wider assortment of items. I think it is tailored to who opens it though. Could be worth a look in the toolset.

[Loredweller]

IIRC, my Druid was able to open any chest in HH just by his lightnings. However i might missed this one, it happens. That one was human, i'm going with elf this time - still in Ch.1, so i might see later.
The other thing i was definitely above 10 there, so it's quite possible Tom might be able to unlock it.

[ 09-19-2002, 04:14 AM: Message edited by: Loredweller ]

[Whailor]

Chest has pretty high DC, for the char levels at that stage anyway, some 34 or 35. It has pretty strong trap on it as well, can burn the henchmen easily. Tomi didn't want to open it, he didn't even say a word when I "used" the chest and found out it's locked. Trap was dicovered, but Tomi said "Eh, sorry, no can do". Good enough signal for me - went back some ways, told Tomi to stand the ground and then tried the chest. Burned nicely.

When you look in the Toolset, the chest is also marked as "Plot Item" interestingly. It has usual treasure script to it, not the worst but not the best either. In any case, if you miss it, it isn't so bad.

[magnetism]

Myself have a weapon swap of "foundation light flail" buy the end of act1 so I dont need to pick locks anymore.

any class can use it and when you attach a chest it "knocks" all chests in the area.