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Old 09-16-2001, 09:06 AM   #41
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There is a way, Tobbin. I suggest we step up security, taking much more care in future. I believe these attacks were sent as a warning, not as an invitation to start a full scale war. The US must be less naive and more careful. I'm convinved that's the message behind it.
Security can be breached. They have already shown this. Sleeper agents are very good Double agents. When you have 20 years to accomplish a mission, you tend to learn many safeguards that are built. With that knowledge, you learn how to manipulate the system, or join it so you can control the security. Yes, we have stepped up security at the airports. But that is only ONE way we can be attacked. Trust me, there are several ways we are weak.


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Old 09-16-2001, 09:10 AM   #42
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we should kill the roots that is producing hydra, find it!

it does not have to be a physical thing...
The only way I can think of to defeat the hydra is to find global peace. If there were a way that we could be 1 united nation, I believe that would stop the meaning for a terrorist. I don't believe this is something that can be achieved in our lifetimes. I do believe that what is occuring today could either HELP the situation to become reality, or to irrevocably DESTROY it's possibility. What is decided within the next few weeks will determine our future. Let us hope that we can combine together and learn how to truly talk and compromise together to become one nation. Most people (Saddam excluded), would not war on their own house. That was what I had meant by a Tower of Babel statement before. We need to find a common ground that we can get beyond it. ONLY in this fashion can we truly grow.



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Old 09-16-2001, 09:11 AM   #43
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step up security has NEVER been a solution for anything

first of all, shit happens
second of all, if a human can think of it, another human can do it too

by that two standards, will be needing infinity amount security to reduce possible attacks

they are in the dark while we are in the light

kill the roots that produce the hydra, that is the way
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Old 09-16-2001, 09:13 AM   #44
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The only way I can think of to defeat the hydra is to find global peace. If there were a way that we could be 1 united nation, I believe that would stop the meaning for a terrorist. I don't believe this is something that can be achieved in our lifetimes. I do believe that what is occuring today could either HELP the situation to become reality, or to irrevocably DESTROY it's possibility. What is decided within the next few weeks will determine our future. Let us hope that we can combine together and learn how to truly talk and compromise together to become one nation. Most people (Saddam excluded), would not war on their own house. That was what I had meant by a Tower of Babel statement before. We need to find a common ground that we can get beyond it. ONLY in this fashion can we truly grow.

if government is run by you, we probally killed the roots already by now
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Old 09-16-2001, 09:16 AM   #45
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if government is run by you, we probally killed the roots already by now
Careful 250, let's not get too personal here!

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Old 09-16-2001, 09:19 AM   #46
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The way to remove the roots of the tree that creates terrorism is to look at why they do it, in this case the USA has done something to upset people, so the logical way is to change the way USA is acting towards these people (within reason)
 
Old 09-16-2001, 09:21 AM   #47
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The way to remove the roots of the tree that creates terrorism is to look at why they do it, in this case the USA has done something to upset people, so the logical way is to change the way USA is acting towards these people (within reason)
yes! compromise!
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Old 09-16-2001, 09:22 AM   #48
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Careful 250, let's not get too personal here!

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ok, I will vote you as president next time!
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Old 09-16-2001, 09:22 AM   #49
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Prevention is the only way to end this. They are ALWAYS going to be terrorists, no matter who you kill. You can get rid of Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, Yassar Arafat - anyone you want, they will always be replaced by someone who shares the same views. You can always improve security - be much stricter with who you let on planes, have everyone searched properly, heck, even have armed police on board - at least then you *know* you're safe.
 
Old 09-16-2001, 09:25 AM   #50
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An unbreachable door to the pilot's cabin would have been helpful in connection to the most current crisis.

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