Morality in the American Presidency - Page 2

Melusine · 01-26-2002, 12:36 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Ronn_Bman:

I have....and they think the terrorists shame Islam and wish much harsher punishments than they see the prisoners receiving in Camp X-Ray. Of course, I don't know all the Muslims in my area and I'm sure you don't know all the Muslims in your area, but just like any other group they will have varying opinions.

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Thanks Ronn - trollswatting does become tedious after a while [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Ryanamur · 01-26-2002, 01:35 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Ronn_Bman:

I have....and they think the terrorists shame Islam and wish much harsher punishments than they see the prisoners receiving in Camp X-Ray. Of course, I don't know all the Muslims in my area and I'm sure you don't know all the Muslims in your area, but just like any other group they will have varying opinions.

LOL, [img]smile.gif[/img] [img]smile.gif[/img] [img]smile.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img] [img]smile.gif[/img]

norompanlasolas · 01-26-2002, 02:55 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Melusine:
Thanks Ronn - trollswatting does become tedious after a while [img]tongue.gif[/img]

well, i dont think he was trolling. he was just stating his opinion, he may not be right (i personally dont think he is right), and it may not be the most politically correct opinion, but he didnt offend or pick on anyone. banding together on one guy and then congratulating each other for doing so seems more trollesy (made up word, i know) to me.

Melusine · 01-26-2002, 03:24 PM

quote:
Originally posted by norompanlasolas:

well, i dont think he was trolling. he was just stating his opinion, he may not be right (i personally dont think he is right), and it may not be the most politically correct opinion, but he didnt offend or pick on anyone. banding together on one guy and then congratulating each other for doing so seems more trollesy (made up word, i know) to me.

Norompanlasolas, I was basing that opinion on several posts I've seen so far, not on this one alone. I can assure you I'm definitely no troll. I think if I was, I wouldn't have been around for almost a year and a half, wouldn't you agree?

Larry_OHF · 01-26-2002, 03:25 PM

I read that most of the "now freed" men that were under the enlsaved rule of the Tala-punks are now able to go out and buy jeans and real pants, like they wanna wear. Before-hand, they were forced to wear those dress things...

norompanlasolas · 01-26-2002, 03:43 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Melusine:
Norompanlasolas, I was basing that opinion on several posts I've seen so far, not on this one alone. I can assure you I'm definitely no troll. I think if I was, I wouldn't have been around for almost a year and a half, wouldn't you agree?

nonono... melusine, i didnt mean to imply that you were a troll. it wasnt my purpose, only that it seemed wrong to pick on someone. sorry if my wording led you to believe that. [img]smile.gif[/img]

but, then, i didnt read all of his posts, so i dont know about his trollesing actions (not a word also, i know).

Melusine · 01-26-2002, 04:13 PM

quote:
Originally posted by norompanlasolas:

nonono... melusine, i didnt mean to imply that you were a troll.

I know you weren't [img]smile.gif[/img]
And I'm not implying Tarox is one either. But I do think he should watch what he says, again speaking of his posts in general that I've seen today.

jabidas · 01-26-2002, 05:49 PM

Well this is an interesting aside to the question asked, anyway I think there is no black and white answer I can give but I think the american government is corrupt, hypocritical and verging on evil regarding foreign policy. Look at most of the record, and I do mean pre september 11 by the way, I dont need to be screamed at because I have a memory that goes further than a goldfish. I know theyve done good things as well, but most of it has been sick.

Anyway answer these two questions before looking at the answers.

TWO TOUGH QUESTIONS

> > > Question 1:
> > > If you knew a woman who was pregnant, who had 8 kids already,
> > > three who were deaf, two who were blind, one mentally retarded,
> > > and she had syphilis; would you recommend that she have an
> > > abortion?
> > >
> > > Read the next question before scrolling down to the answer of
> > > this one.
> > >
> > > Question 2:
> > > It is time to elect a new world leader, and your vote counts.
> > > Here are the facts about the three leading candidates:
> > >
> > > Candidate A:
> > > Associates with crooked politicians, and consults with
> > > astrologists. He's had two mistresses. He also chain smokes and
> > > drinks 8 to 10 martinis a day.
> > >
> > > Candidate B:
> > > He was kicked out of office twice, sleeps until noon, used
opium
> > > in college and drinks a quart of whiskey every evening.
> > >
> > > Candidate C:
> > > He is a decorated war hero. He's a vegetarian, doesn't smoke,
> > > drinks an occasional beer and hasn't had any extramarital
> > > affairs.
> > >
> > > Which of these candidates would be your choice?
> > >
> > > Decide first, no peeking, then scroll down for the
> > > answer.
> > >

> > > Candidate A is Franklin D. Roosevelt
> > > Candidate B is Winston Churchill
> > > Candidate C is Adolph Hitler
> > >
> > > And by the way, the answer to the abortion question:
> > > If you said yes,
> > > you just killed Beethoven.

Larry_OHF · 01-26-2002, 06:42 PM

quote:
Originally posted by jabidas:...but I think the american government is corrupt, hypocritical and verging on evil...

Name a country that is not.

Ok...fun fact that I learned in my International Business Class, last semester. I cannot locate the cursed book to quote sources and all that, nor be as detailed as I would like to illustrate, but nevertheless, I can show you what counts.

In a survey that the WTO, (World Trade Organization) conducted, they asked for its members to mention how many times they had visually seen and had proof of corruptive business deals within a country's govt. After the polls had been taken, it was concluded that Denmark (the cleanest) was number 1 on the chart and was 100% clean of any corruptiveness and the worst on the charts was South Africa (the worst), being at number 63 (I think...it was 60+, anyway...and last) The U.S ws listed as number 17 on the chart, and the U.N. was number 14.

So as you can see, the members of the WTO reported knowing about corrupt governmental actions in more than 60 countries, world-wide, and we were #17, just a few below the U.N., and how many more were below us!

What does this prove?
What does everybody's accusations against us prove?
Where will it get us after we have accused each other?

If you are so proud of your country...get your country's name at number one (unless you are in Denmark), and quit whining about what you think we are doing wrong. You have your own problems. Let us deal with ours.

Edit: Oops! Forgot to turn off an Italics command. hehe

[ 01-26-2002: Message edited by: Larry_OHF ]

jabidas · 01-26-2002, 07:05 PM

Frankly Larry its very easy to hide how much you eat by burying your shit, and with an organisation as capable as the C.I.A its very easy to bury things. Im not attacking the american people just the government.

01-26-2002, 12:36 PM	#11
Melusine Dracolisk Join Date: January 8, 2001 Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands Age: 43 Posts: 6,541	quote: Originally posted by Ronn_Bman: I have....and they think the terrorists shame Islam and wish much harsher punishments than they see the prisoners receiving in Camp X-Ray. Of course, I don't know all the Muslims in my area and I'm sure you don't know all the Muslims in your area, but just like any other group they will have varying opinions. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img] Thanks Ronn - trollswatting does become tedious after a while [img]tongue.gif[/img] __________________ [img]\"hosted/melusine.jpg\" alt=\" - \" /><br />Your voice is ambrosia

01-26-2002, 01:35 PM	#12
Ryanamur Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: March 29, 2001 Location: Montréal, Canada Age: 49 Posts: 1,763	quote: Originally posted by Ronn_Bman: I have....and they think the terrorists shame Islam and wish much harsher punishments than they see the prisoners receiving in Camp X-Ray. Of course, I don't know all the Muslims in my area and I'm sure you don't know all the Muslims in your area, but just like any other group they will have varying opinions. LOL, [img]smile.gif[/img] [img]smile.gif[/img] [img]smile.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img] [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ An idiot will only play Russian roulette with an automatic pistol! Thank God they only do it once! <img border=\"0\" title=\"\" alt=\"[Smile]\" src=\"smile.gif\" />

01-26-2002, 02:55 PM	#13
norompanlasolas Avatar Join Date: November 13, 2001 Location: madrid, spain... made in argentina Age: 47 Posts: 569	quote: Originally posted by Melusine: Thanks Ronn - trollswatting does become tedious after a while [img]tongue.gif[/img] well, i dont think he was trolling. he was just stating his opinion, he may not be right (i personally dont think he is right), and it may not be the most politically correct opinion, but he didnt offend or pick on anyone. banding together on one guy and then congratulating each other for doing so seems more trollesy (made up word, i know) to me. __________________ no

01-26-2002, 03:24 PM	#14
Melusine Dracolisk Join Date: January 8, 2001 Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands Age: 43 Posts: 6,541	quote: Originally posted by norompanlasolas: well, i dont think he was trolling. he was just stating his opinion, he may not be right (i personally dont think he is right), and it may not be the most politically correct opinion, but he didnt offend or pick on anyone. banding together on one guy and then congratulating each other for doing so seems more trollesy (made up word, i know) to me. Norompanlasolas, I was basing that opinion on several posts I've seen so far, not on this one alone. I can assure you I'm definitely no troll. I think if I was, I wouldn't have been around for almost a year and a half, wouldn't you agree? __________________ [img]\"hosted/melusine.jpg\" alt=\" - \" /><br />Your voice is ambrosia

01-26-2002, 03:25 PM	#15
Larry_OHF Ironworks Moderator Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Midlands, South Carolina Age: 48 Posts: 14,759	I read that most of the "now freed" men that were under the enlsaved rule of the Tala-punks are now able to go out and buy jeans and real pants, like they wanna wear. Before-hand, they were forced to wear those dress things... __________________

01-26-2002, 03:43 PM	#16
norompanlasolas Avatar Join Date: November 13, 2001 Location: madrid, spain... made in argentina Age: 47 Posts: 569	quote: Originally posted by Melusine: Norompanlasolas, I was basing that opinion on several posts I've seen so far, not on this one alone. I can assure you I'm definitely no troll. I think if I was, I wouldn't have been around for almost a year and a half, wouldn't you agree? nonono... melusine, i didnt mean to imply that you were a troll. it wasnt my purpose, only that it seemed wrong to pick on someone. sorry if my wording led you to believe that. [img]smile.gif[/img] but, then, i didnt read all of his posts, so i dont know about his trollesing actions (not a word also, i know). __________________ no

01-26-2002, 04:13 PM	#17
Melusine Dracolisk Join Date: January 8, 2001 Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands Age: 43 Posts: 6,541	quote: Originally posted by norompanlasolas: nonono... melusine, i didnt mean to imply that you were a troll. I know you weren't [img]smile.gif[/img] And I'm not implying Tarox is one either. But I do think he should watch what he says, again speaking of his posts in general that I've seen today. __________________ [img]\"hosted/melusine.jpg\" alt=\" - \" /><br />Your voice is ambrosia

01-26-2002, 05:49 PM	#18
jabidas Silver Dragon Join Date: March 14, 2001 Location: Agharti. Mountains of Madness Posts: 1,673	Well this is an interesting aside to the question asked, anyway I think there is no black and white answer I can give but I think the american government is corrupt, hypocritical and verging on evil regarding foreign policy. Look at most of the record, and I do mean pre september 11 by the way, I dont need to be screamed at because I have a memory that goes further than a goldfish. I know theyve done good things as well, but most of it has been sick. Anyway answer these two questions before looking at the answers. TWO TOUGH QUESTIONS > > > Question 1: > > > If you knew a woman who was pregnant, who had 8 kids already, > > > three who were deaf, two who were blind, one mentally retarded, > > > and she had syphilis; would you recommend that she have an > > > abortion? > > > > > > Read the next question before scrolling down to the answer of > > > this one. > > > > > > Question 2: > > > It is time to elect a new world leader, and your vote counts. > > > Here are the facts about the three leading candidates: > > > > > > Candidate A: > > > Associates with crooked politicians, and consults with > > > astrologists. He's had two mistresses. He also chain smokes and > > > drinks 8 to 10 martinis a day. > > > > > > Candidate B: > > > He was kicked out of office twice, sleeps until noon, used opium > > > in college and drinks a quart of whiskey every evening. > > > > > > Candidate C: > > > He is a decorated war hero. He's a vegetarian, doesn't smoke, > > > drinks an occasional beer and hasn't had any extramarital > > > affairs. > > > > > > Which of these candidates would be your choice? > > > > > > Decide first, no peeking, then scroll down for the > > > answer. > > > > > > Candidate A is Franklin D. Roosevelt > > > Candidate B is Winston Churchill > > > Candidate C is Adolph Hitler > > > > > > And by the way, the answer to the abortion question: > > > If you said yes, > > > you just killed Beethoven. __________________ <br /><br />Non Serviam.

01-26-2002, 06:42 PM	#19
Larry_OHF Ironworks Moderator Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Midlands, South Carolina Age: 48 Posts: 14,759	quote: Originally posted by jabidas:...but I think the american government is corrupt, hypocritical and verging on evil... Name a country that is not. Ok...fun fact that I learned in my International Business Class, last semester. I cannot locate the cursed book to quote sources and all that, nor be as detailed as I would like to illustrate, but nevertheless, I can show you what counts. In a survey that the WTO, (World Trade Organization) conducted, they asked for its members to mention how many times they had visually seen and had proof of corruptive business deals within a country's govt. After the polls had been taken, it was concluded that Denmark (the cleanest) was number 1 on the chart and was 100% clean of any corruptiveness and the worst on the charts was South Africa (the worst), being at number 63 (I think...it was 60+, anyway...and last) The U.S ws listed as number 17 on the chart, and the U.N. was number 14. So as you can see, the members of the WTO reported knowing about corrupt governmental actions in more than 60 countries, world-wide, and we were #17, just a few below the U.N., and how many more were below us! What does this prove? What does everybody's accusations against us prove? Where will it get us after we have accused each other? If you are so proud of your country...get your country's name at number one (unless you are in Denmark), and quit whining about what you think we are doing wrong. You have your own problems. Let us deal with ours. Edit: Oops! Forgot to turn off an Italics command. hehe [ 01-26-2002: Message edited by: Larry_OHF ]

01-26-2002, 07:05 PM	#20
jabidas Silver Dragon Join Date: March 14, 2001 Location: Agharti. Mountains of Madness Posts: 1,673	Frankly Larry its very easy to hide how much you eat by burying your shit, and with an organisation as capable as the C.I.A its very easy to bury things. Im not attacking the american people just the government. __________________ <br /><br />Non Serviam.

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