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The default setting for the universe is cold, not hot or luke warm. If nothing existed, all would be dark, cold and space (nothing). No heat, no light, no matter. In our universe suns create heat. Movement, friction, life itself creates heat. On the matter of space, space is nothing. On earth, what we call space actually contains air, but the word space is in this case defined by a relative lack as has been stated. However, on the matter of space being infinite.... How can space be infinite? So the universe is expanding (which implies a limit or end, for only that with boundaries can expand their boundary otherwise it would already be where it's expanding into) fair enough, and it has said that it's expanding into infinite space. But space is finite. It stops where something is. Finite. WIth limit. There is no space where there is a sun. Or a rock, or wind, or a tree, or an asteroid. So space is not infinite, because it has finite boundaries of substance. So we have a finite universe expanding into finite space, though it could expand infinitely.... or will until it contracts. [ 01-05-2003, 10:57 PM: Message edited by: Yorick ] |
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On that basis - does heat exist as well? If we take the accepted thesis that heat is derived from the "existance and release" of energy, and that cold things lack energy or the ability to release it - can we truly state that heat exists? When it boils down to it, things are just in a continual state of energy exchange, and hot and cold are just descriptors for the level of energy transferred or emitted.
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Of course I could say that I know that cold exists because of the effect it's having on me at this very moment. (But I won't)
As for space, the expanding universe, infinity and what was there before it was created - I spent years thinking about this as a child. What I learned was that it gives me a headache so I don't do it any more.
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Does defeat exist or is it just the absence of victory?
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Depends if defeat entails reversion to a pre-conflict prior state, or a loss and reduction worse than the situation before conflict.
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