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Firestormalpha · 08-22-2003, 11:29 AM

"The price of Liberty is Eternal Vigilance." But on whose part? The government or the people, or both? Yes, freedom must have some limitations or all you have left is Anarchy, and wheres the fun in that?

IAmThumper · 08-22-2003, 01:46 PM

"THE PRICE OF LIBERTY IS ETERNAL VIGILANCE"
I've always associated this with the cold war. I think of it as you have to protect yourself from those that would take your freedom away.
What's happening now is backwards: You can't fight them so to protect your live you have to sacrifice some of your freedom.
The Price of Eternal Vigilance is Liberty.

Rokenn · 08-22-2003, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Harkoliar:
"THE PRICE OF LIBERTY IS ETERNAL VIGILANCE"

Personally I've always prefered:
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Attalus · 08-22-2003, 02:34 PM

That is the flip side to "The Tree of Liberty must from time to time be refreshed by the blood of patriots." - Thomas Jefferson

Harkoliar · 08-22-2003, 08:52 PM

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posted by reeka
All kidding aside Harkolier, it is a good quote and very true. Complacency in anything more often than not leads to unexpected, if not, dire consequences.

quote:

I disagree. Too much vigilance can lead to a police state, and I don't think thats a good thing imo. Being watched 24/7 "for your own good" is not my idea of freedom. I think that too much vigilance can lead to paranoia. Of course, on the other hand, too much complacency is a bad thing too.

[/QUOTE]I agree, with you guys both. but I think there should be a median of both extremes in this statement [img]smile.gif[/img]

Quote:

posted by donut
I got one:

It's only the hair on a gooseberry that stops it from being a grape!

thinking of being a grape now instead of a pastry donut [img]tongue.gif[/img]

johnny · 08-22-2003, 08:54 PM

This is a classic, what a guy this man was.

Always remember that I have taken more out of alcohol than alcohol has taken out of me. --Winston Churchill

/)eathKiller · 08-23-2003, 12:22 AM

that quote seems like something out of the Mcarthy Era really. But i suppose it could be considered a saying for all time, or at least times of people living in fear anyway... >_> when you think about it, if we were to always be vigiland all the time thne that would single out the lazy/non vigilant people and we'd have a break down in our lazy-people system [img]tongue.gif[/img] not a good thing for the couch potatoes and late-night drinkers of the world as they'd be put in the same ranks as people plotting agasint the government simply for not being vigilant enough, or even worse, Singling out the vigilant folks, as it would really be those about to commit something heinos that were vigilant... Interesting way of looking at it now, eh?

Jorath Calar · 08-23-2003, 02:57 AM

"Trying is the first step to failure"

and I love this one Of course:
"If you don't succeed you run the risk of failure"
Simple but sooo true
[img]smile.gif[/img]

Paladin2000 · 08-23-2003, 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Harkoliar:
I was just riding a bus a while ago and when I saw this sign or motto placed on the building.

"THE PRICE OF LIBERTY IS ETERNAL VIGILANCE"

I thought that kind of motto was pretty good dont you think?

There was a quote quite similar in Wing Commander IV:

"THE PRICE OF FREEDOM IS ETERNAL VIGILANCE" - quoted by Admiral Tolwyn at the tribunal.

Unfortunately this motto drove him into insanity and the tribunal found him guilty and sentence him to death. Subsequently he hung himself in his cell.

I guess having too much of anything is a curse indeed.

Leonis · 08-23-2003, 11:34 AM

A few years ago someone went around Sydney graffitiing "Che Lives!" all over the place.

Some statement.

Then someone else went around around editing them to read things like "Cheap Olives!", "Cheese Slices!" and "Itchy Livers!"

[img]smile.gif[/img] Brilliant.

08-22-2003, 11:29 AM	#11
Firestormalpha Knight of the Rose Join Date: July 11, 2002 Location: Coral Springs, Fl USA Age: 40 Posts: 4,454	"The price of Liberty is Eternal Vigilance." But on whose part? The government or the people, or both? Yes, freedom must have some limitations or all you have left is Anarchy, and wheres the fun in that? __________________ "When you start with a presupposition, it's hard to arrive at any other conclusion." "We are never to judge a philosophy by its abuse." - Augustine "If you're wondering if God has a sense of humor, consider the platypus." http://www.greaterthings.cbglades.com

08-22-2003, 02:34 PM	#14
Attalus Symbol of Bane Join Date: November 26, 2001 Location: Texas Age: 75 Posts: 8,167	That is the flip side to "The Tree of Liberty must from time to time be refreshed by the blood of patriots." - Thomas Jefferson __________________ Even Heroes sometimes fail...

08-22-2003, 08:54 PM	#16
johnny 40th Level Warrior Join Date: April 15, 2002 Location: Utrecht The Netherlands Age: 58 Posts: 16,981	This is a classic, what a guy this man was. Always remember that I have taken more out of alcohol than alcohol has taken out of me. --Winston Churchill __________________

08-23-2003, 12:22 AM	#17
/)eathKiller Dracolisk Join Date: January 5, 2002 Location: Guantanamo Bay, Cuba Age: 38 Posts: 6,043	that quote seems like something out of the Mcarthy Era really. But i suppose it could be considered a saying for all time, or at least times of people living in fear anyway... >_> when you think about it, if we were to always be vigiland all the time thne that would single out the lazy/non vigilant people and we'd have a break down in our lazy-people system [img]tongue.gif[/img] not a good thing for the couch potatoes and late-night drinkers of the world as they'd be put in the same ranks as people plotting agasint the government simply for not being vigilant enough, or even worse, Singling out the vigilant folks, as it would really be those about to commit something heinos that were vigilant... Interesting way of looking at it now, eh? __________________ [img]\"http://membres.lycos.fr/th8or/ZeroSigForIronworks.gif\" alt=\" - \" /> o.o;

08-23-2003, 11:34 AM	#20
Leonis Symbol of Cyric Join Date: March 6, 2001 Location: Somewhere on Earth - it changes often Posts: 1,292	A few years ago someone went around Sydney graffitiing "Che Lives!" all over the place. Some statement. Then someone else went around around editing them to read things like "Cheap Olives!", "Cheese Slices!" and "Itchy Livers!" [img]smile.gif[/img] Brilliant. __________________ Better run through the jungle! Grrr...

08-22-2003, 01:46 PM	#12
IAmThumper Dungeon Master Join Date: May 19, 2003 Location: Woodstock, Ontario, Canada Age: 50 Posts: 93	"THE PRICE OF LIBERTY IS ETERNAL VIGILANCE" I've always associated this with the cold war. I think of it as you have to protect yourself from those that would take your freedom away. What's happening now is backwards: You can't fight them so to protect your live you have to sacrifice some of your freedom. The Price of Eternal Vigilance is Liberty.

08-23-2003, 02:57 AM	#18
Jorath Calar Harper Join Date: October 6, 2001 Location: Iceland Posts: 4,706	"Trying is the first step to failure" and I love this one Of course: "If you don't succeed you run the risk of failure" Simple but sooo true [img]smile.gif[/img]

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