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Assassin · 05-28-2005, 09:56 PM

Quite honestly, I've never seen the reason for Archers. Why?

#1] They are crap in melee. Even the elite ones aren't worht their cost in melee.

#2] They kill the enemy at a rate of two per volley. I swear, they can't damage the enemy worth anything. The elite hoplites/legionnaires are barely touched by the arrows. The only time I've ever seen arrows do anything to those guys is from the flank. But I'd much rather have Cavalry at the flank.

#3] Infantry and Cavalry kill much faster, and it's far easier to get close to the enemy than stay away from them. Have you ever had an Archer have more kills than your Infantry, let alone your Cavalry?

Someone, please, inform me of how they can actually be used. It seems to me that seige weapons do the job equally as well, can do damage to buildings and splatter elite troops much more efficiently.

Sir Degrader · 05-28-2005, 10:02 PM

They can be used to
A) Deal little amounts of damage that can seriously add up over the course of a battle.
C) FLANK. I swear, I've had an archer unit flank a Praetorian cohort, causing them to rout. Needless to say I was surprised. In other battles I've found that noone goes for archers with cavalry and whanot presenting a greater thread. Its game theory really.

Dreamer128 · 05-29-2005, 05:41 AM

Has anyone tried the SPQR mod? I've heard loads of good things about it. There is no shortage of ambitious mods at http://www.twcenter.net/forums/index.php?showforum=63 btw.

pritchke · 05-31-2005, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dreamer128:
Has anyone tried the SPQR mod? I've heard loads of good things about it. There is no shortage of ambitious mods at http://www.twcenter.net/forums/index.php?showforum=63 btw.

The board is currently down, so I can't see what it does. But I am assuming you can play the Senate starting with Rome as your only city. Could make for an interesting game.

[ 05-31-2005, 11:11 AM: Message edited by: pritchke ]

Dreamer128 · 06-03-2005, 11:00 AM

Works fine for me. [img]smile.gif[/img] And no, I don't think you are meant to play as the Senate. SPQR makes the game alot more challenging, mainly by de-nerving roman troops and increasing the opposition. The senate is also a force to be reckoned with. [img]smile.gif[/img]

johnny · 06-04-2005, 01:16 PM

Velk, you tried the Total Realism mod yet ?

Sir Degrader · 06-07-2005, 10:52 AM

Has it occured to anyone how easy playing as a hoplite faction is?

johnny · 06-07-2005, 06:05 PM

Yeah, until you run into the fast moving cavalry archers from the Parthians, then you'll get slaughtered.

Sir Degrader · 06-08-2005, 04:55 PM

Then, the all shining glory of Scythian Mercenaries illuminates your day.

Dreamer128 · 06-10-2005, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnny:
Velk, you tried the Total Realism mod yet ?

Not yet. I was planning too, but your review made me reconsider. Is the new version any better? I'm playing SPQR now, btw, and it is truly an awesome mod. You can built entire armies in a single turn, and the opposition has increased tenfold as opposed to the original game. It also turns Carthage into a true powerhouse, by placing additional cities in Africa and South-Italy. Worth checking out. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 06-10-2005, 05:42 PM: Message edited by: Dreamer128 ]

05-28-2005, 09:56 PM	#171
Assassin Symbol of Cyric Join Date: March 23, 2003 Location: Canada Age: 36 Posts: 1,134	Quite honestly, I've never seen the reason for Archers. Why? #1] They are crap in melee. Even the elite ones aren't worht their cost in melee. #2] They kill the enemy at a rate of two per volley. I swear, they can't damage the enemy worth anything. The elite hoplites/legionnaires are barely touched by the arrows. The only time I've ever seen arrows do anything to those guys is from the flank. But I'd much rather have Cavalry at the flank. #3] Infantry and Cavalry kill much faster, and it's far easier to get close to the enemy than stay away from them. Have you ever had an Archer have more kills than your Infantry, let alone your Cavalry? Someone, please, inform me of how they can actually be used. It seems to me that seige weapons do the job equally as well, can do damage to buildings and splatter elite troops much more efficiently. __________________ In The Terminator, Sarah Connor is told a speech by John Connor\'s father that John has given in the future. When John is born, Sarah tells John this speech, and John grows up to tell it in the future. So who wrote the speech?!

06-04-2005, 01:16 PM	#176
johnny 40th Level Warrior Join Date: April 15, 2002 Location: Utrecht The Netherlands Age: 58 Posts: 16,981	Velk, you tried the Total Realism mod yet ? __________________

06-07-2005, 06:05 PM	#178
johnny 40th Level Warrior Join Date: April 15, 2002 Location: Utrecht The Netherlands Age: 58 Posts: 16,981	Yeah, until you run into the fast moving cavalry archers from the Parthians, then you'll get slaughtered. __________________

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05-28-2005, 10:02 PM	#172
Sir Degrader Thoth - Egyptian God of Wisdom Join Date: November 3, 2001 Location: Canada Age: 63 Posts: 2,871	They can be used to A) Deal little amounts of damage that can seriously add up over the course of a battle. C) FLANK. I swear, I've had an archer unit flank a Praetorian cohort, causing them to rout. Needless to say I was surprised. In other battles I've found that noone goes for archers with cavalry and whanot presenting a greater thread. Its game theory really.

05-29-2005, 05:41 AM	#173
Dreamer128 Dracolisk Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: Europe Age: 39 Posts: 6,136	Has anyone tried the SPQR mod? I've heard loads of good things about it. There is no shortage of ambitious mods at http://www.twcenter.net/forums/index.php?showforum=63 btw.

06-03-2005, 11:00 AM	#175
Dreamer128 Dracolisk Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: Europe Age: 39 Posts: 6,136	Works fine for me. [img]smile.gif[/img] And no, I don't think you are meant to play as the Senate. SPQR makes the game alot more challenging, mainly by de-nerving roman troops and increasing the opposition. The senate is also a force to be reckoned with. [img]smile.gif[/img]

06-07-2005, 10:52 AM	#177
Sir Degrader Thoth - Egyptian God of Wisdom Join Date: November 3, 2001 Location: Canada Age: 63 Posts: 2,871	Has it occured to anyone how easy playing as a hoplite faction is?

06-08-2005, 04:55 PM	#179
Sir Degrader Thoth - Egyptian God of Wisdom Join Date: November 3, 2001 Location: Canada Age: 63 Posts: 2,871	Then, the all shining glory of Scythian Mercenaries illuminates your day.

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