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Old 10-26-2008, 07:48 PM   #1
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This is a religious, preaching sort of thing. I think it's interesting for anyone to see though. (8minutes & 34seconds)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e4zgJXPpI4
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Old 10-27-2008, 11:01 AM   #2
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Well, it sure looks like a cross...

...And a bunch of other things as well.

http://www.snopes.com/glurge/laminin.asp
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Old 10-27-2008, 11:28 AM   #3
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Well, it sure looks like a cross...

...And a bunch of other things as well.

http://www.snopes.com/glurge/laminin.asp
...very cool link! Thanks for that.
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Old 10-27-2008, 11:50 AM   #4
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I would say there are much better arguments out there for a creator than Giglio's message.

I'd actually recomend and have recomended Lee Strobel's "Case for a Creator" if your interested in the subject.

For those who don't know, Lee Strobel was a long time atheist, after his wife became a christian he was perplexed by the changes he saw in her and decided to look into the evidence for christianity. He's no longer an atheist.
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Old 10-27-2008, 11:53 AM   #5
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Well, it sure looks like a cross...

...And a bunch of other things as well.

http://www.snopes.com/glurge/laminin.asp

Yeah I thought so too.. Not so much a cross, but a weird sword like thingamabob...athing..


*shrugs* cool find, nonetheless
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Old 10-27-2008, 12:31 PM   #6
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*WOW*. That guy has got to be in the top five professional speakers I have ever watched.

Excellent find, I'm going to study it more, I really like how he uses the book as if he's reading from it, to lower his tone, catch his breath, then "pow" pump it back up.

Wonder how well he could deliver a "Theory of Evolution" speech?
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Old 10-27-2008, 01:30 PM   #7
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I would say there are much better arguments out there for a creator than Giglio's message.

I'd actually recomend and have recomended Lee Strobel's "Case for a Creator" if your interested in the subject.

For those who don't know, Lee Strobel was a long time atheist, after his wife became a christian he was perplexed by the changes he saw in her and decided to look into the evidence for christianity. He's no longer an atheist.
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Old 10-27-2008, 07:44 PM   #8
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You guys'll hold on to anything, won't you?
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Old 10-27-2008, 07:59 PM   #9
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Not everyone grabs onto just anything. Some of us do a good bit of research when we decide what to believe.

The question of course is, what would it take to change what you believe? And is this the same standard you used when deciding to believe what you do now?

I'm convinced there are people out there that, if God Himself came down and told them He was real, they'd still have a hard time believing it. (If I may be so bold, I'd almost say you would fall into this category Beau.)

"Case for a Creator" isn't full of tenuous possibilities, but rather confirmed facts backed by experts in various fields.
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Old 10-27-2008, 08:35 PM   #10
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The question of course is, what would it take to change what you believe? And is this the same standard you used when deciding to believe what you do now?
What would it take? In a word: Evidence; and before we argue the semantics of evidence, I mean evidence beyond reasonable doubt, of which there is none for a creator. Only a few coincidences poking holes in a lot of logical probability.

Laminin IS NOT in the shape of a crucifix at all. In the slightest. Only the diagram of it is. If I take a ten pound note, fold it over a bit and such, I can make it look like the queen has a beard, without ripping/changing any of the structure of it. This is nothing more than that. If it gets jumbled up a bit, and drawn in a simple way which is easy for the layman to understand, then yes, it's a lovely coincidence that it looks like the method of execution for your messiah.

And as far as god coming down to me, personally, I do think I would believe it, in all honesty. Because, seeing that, to me, would constitute aforementioned evidence.
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