Newbies - Page 2

Sazerac · 02-11-2002, 04:31 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Barry the Sprout:
I think Regin is right - people just have friends or contacts already. It isn't exactly Newbie bashing that I have encountered as much but more Newbie-ignoring. And this is mostly because people already have friends on a forum. Also some new people take a while to get used to what is acceptable, so some of them come across as trolling when that is not their intention. My brother had a real problem when he came on this forum and he left shortly after he got registered. You just learn what kind of a place this is after a while, it doesn't happen immediately and that can often cause tension.

Who was your brother, Barry? I don't remember any instance at all like that.

Of all the things we can be accused of, "ignoring newbies" certainly isn't it. Look at all of the welcome threads we have around here! [img]smile.gif[/img]

Cheers,

slackerboy · 02-11-2002, 05:39 PM

hey, sigmar. give me a link to that forum. i feel like doing some reverse newbie bashing. as in a newbie going in and tearing it up.

andrewas · 02-11-2002, 05:45 PM

quote:
Originally posted by slackerboy:
hey, sigmar. give me a link to that forum. i feel like doing some reverse newbie bashing. as in a newbie going in and tearing it up.

Certain people go and flame newbies, and you want to go and flame them? Just let them be, their board will die and IW will become the best by an even greater margin.

I wonder what would happen if I ot another handle and started posting like a newbie? Would i get ignored/abused? I dont think it would happen here but it might be an interesting experiment on some other boards.

jabidas · 02-11-2002, 05:56 PM

Well I might even be a little guilty of this, but its not to do with the number of posts. Generally newbies dont have very interesting sigs so I dont look all that closely at first, but then I can be shallow like that. Eventually you get to know people but if everyone had some kind of interesting picture it would be a lot easier.

Lavindathar · 02-11-2002, 06:07 PM

I remember my first ever post here on IW, it said something like: "just cos im new to this forum, doesn't mean im a newbie".

Basically, cos people usually tear newbie's up, disrespect them, and never listen to their opinions. But then I got flamed for thinkin that we had newbies here at the IW!!

Ziroc · 02-12-2002, 12:30 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Sigmar:
Why do people insult new people visiting their forum, for all they now the new individual could know something the rest of the communtiy doesn't and the individual could be a great help to them but know they shoot first and dont ask questions later.

Why? It's simple, SOME people think they are 'hot shit' just because they are 'regulars' or have tons of posts, and this seems to be the ONLY thing in their life they have, so they must strut around acting like they are cool and know -EVERYTHING- . In most cases, this is very wrong.

We don't have that here, all of our regulars and even NON-regulars are extremely nice to new users, and go the extra mile to help them. That is why I think we get so many new users--word spreads around that 'you can ask a question without feeling you're going to be attacked'.. Now I HAVE caught a few people since the forum was founded, but those people were either warned HARSHLY or banned. We just won't tolerate that sadistic attitude here.

So if any New users are reading this, JOIN in on discussions!! We'd love to hear from you!! The more the better!

Just had to say that.. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Scholarcs · 02-12-2002, 01:29 AM

Hey I know what you mean Sigmar, thats why IW is such a cool place!

Barry the Sprout · 02-12-2002, 05:50 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Sazerac:

Who was your brother, Barry? I don't remember any instance at all like that.

Of all the things we can be accused of, "ignoring newbies" certainly isn't it. Look at all of the welcome threads we have around here! [img]smile.gif[/img]

Cheers,

Its not as bad as it sounds in my previous post, on reflection. He was called "Smeagol" and he only really posted in GD and the War forum until it was archived. He just got a bit caught up in what became of the Criminals thread and decided this place wasn't for him. I would try and persuade him otherwise but I live 60 miles away from him and I don't think it will work via e-mail somehow. I don't think he is that bothered to be honest, he is not really a forum person when you get right down to it.

What I meant about newbie ignoring was a much mroe general thing than not rolling out the red carpet when someone new comes in, which I agree we do quite admirably. What I meant was that people tend to look out for posts of people they know, and reply to those. Sometimes this can feel like you are being left out of the conversation when you are new, but it is just because people don't know you as well. That is what I think might happen anyway.

Melusine · 02-12-2002, 07:07 AM

Hey Barry, I remember Smeagol well! Too bad he's given up on IW, I liked him! [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 02-12-2002: Message edited by: Melusine ]

norompanlasolas · 02-12-2002, 07:16 AM

yep, i remember him from the war forum. he seemed like a cool guy. and let me guess, hes older than you... am i right barry? [img]smile.gif[/img]

02-11-2002, 04:31 PM	#11
Sazerac Ironworks Moderator Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Monroe, LA Age: 60 Posts: 7,387	quote: Originally posted by Barry the Sprout: I think Regin is right - people just have friends or contacts already. It isn't exactly Newbie bashing that I have encountered as much but more Newbie-ignoring. And this is mostly because people already have friends on a forum. Also some new people take a while to get used to what is acceptable, so some of them come across as trolling when that is not their intention. My brother had a real problem when he came on this forum and he left shortly after he got registered. You just learn what kind of a place this is after a while, it doesn't happen immediately and that can often cause tension. Who was your brother, Barry? I don't remember any instance at all like that. Of all the things we can be accused of, "ignoring newbies" certainly isn't it. Look at all of the welcome threads we have around here! [img]smile.gif[/img] Cheers, __________________ "And all my days are trances, and all my nightly dreams, Are where thy grey eye glances, and where thy footstep gleams, In what ethereal dances, by what eternal streams..."

02-11-2002, 05:39 PM	#12
slackerboy Gold Dragon Join Date: March 5, 2001 Location: smyrna, tn, usa Age: 46 Posts: 2,506	hey, sigmar. give me a link to that forum. i feel like doing some reverse newbie bashing. as in a newbie going in and tearing it up. __________________

02-11-2002, 05:45 PM	#13
andrewas Harper Join Date: October 2, 2001 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Age: 42 Posts: 4,774	quote: Originally posted by slackerboy: hey, sigmar. give me a link to that forum. i feel like doing some reverse newbie bashing. as in a newbie going in and tearing it up. Certain people go and flame newbies, and you want to go and flame them? Just let them be, their board will die and IW will become the best by an even greater margin. I wonder what would happen if I ot another handle and started posting like a newbie? Would i get ignored/abused? I dont think it would happen here but it might be an interesting experiment on some other boards. __________________ [img]\"http://www.sighost.us/members/Zvijer/andrewas.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

02-11-2002, 05:56 PM	#14
jabidas Silver Dragon Join Date: March 14, 2001 Location: Agharti. Mountains of Madness Posts: 1,673	Well I might even be a little guilty of this, but its not to do with the number of posts. Generally newbies dont have very interesting sigs so I dont look all that closely at first, but then I can be shallow like that. Eventually you get to know people but if everyone had some kind of interesting picture it would be a lot easier. __________________ <br /><br />Non Serviam.

02-11-2002, 06:07 PM	#15
Lavindathar Harper Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: Lancs, England Age: 39 Posts: 4,729	I remember my first ever post here on IW, it said something like: "just cos im new to this forum, doesn't mean im a newbie". Basically, cos people usually tear newbie's up, disrespect them, and never listen to their opinions. But then I got flamed for thinkin that we had newbies here at the IW!! __________________ =@

02-12-2002, 12:30 AM	#16
Ziroc Ironworks Webmaster *Bow to the Meow* Join Date: January 4, 2001 Location: Lakeland, Florida Age: 51 Posts: 11,720	quote: Originally posted by Sigmar: Why do people insult new people visiting their forum, for all they now the new individual could know something the rest of the communtiy doesn't and the individual could be a great help to them but know they shoot first and dont ask questions later. Why? It's simple, SOME people think they are 'hot shit' just because they are 'regulars' or have tons of posts, and this seems to be the ONLY thing in their life they have, so they must strut around acting like they are cool and know -EVERYTHING- . In most cases, this is very wrong. We don't have that here, all of our regulars and even NON-regulars are extremely nice to new users, and go the extra mile to help them. That is why I think we get so many new users--word spreads around that 'you can ask a question without feeling you're going to be attacked'.. Now I HAVE caught a few people since the forum was founded, but those people were either warned HARSHLY or banned. We just won't tolerate that sadistic attitude here. So if any New users are reading this, JOIN in on discussions!! We'd love to hear from you!! The more the better! Just had to say that.. [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ Ziroc™ Ironworks Gaming Webmaster www.ironworksgaming.com The Great Escape Studios - 2D/3D Modeling www.tgeweb.com & Ziroc's Facebook Page Visit My Flickr Photo Album

02-12-2002, 01:29 AM	#17
Scholarcs Red Dragon Join Date: December 5, 2001 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Age: 38 Posts: 1,557	Hey I know what you mean Sigmar, thats why IW is such a cool place! __________________ <br />\"A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five\" - Groucho Marx<br />Member of the ORT Clan. <br />\"Some birds are not meant to be caged because their feathers are too bright\"<br />Ma bouche sera la bouche des malheurs qui n\'ont point de bouche, ma voix, la liberté de celles qui s\'affaissent au cachot du désespoir. - Aimé Césaire<br />La plus perdue de toutes les journées est celle où l\'on n\'a pas ri. - Sébastien Roch Nicolas

02-12-2002, 05:50 AM	#18
Barry the Sprout White Dragon Join Date: October 19, 2001 Location: York, UK. Age: 41 Posts: 1,815	quote: Originally posted by Sazerac: Who was your brother, Barry? I don't remember any instance at all like that. Of all the things we can be accused of, "ignoring newbies" certainly isn't it. Look at all of the welcome threads we have around here! [img]smile.gif[/img] Cheers, Its not as bad as it sounds in my previous post, on reflection. He was called "Smeagol" and he only really posted in GD and the War forum until it was archived. He just got a bit caught up in what became of the Criminals thread and decided this place wasn't for him. I would try and persuade him otherwise but I live 60 miles away from him and I don't think it will work via e-mail somehow. I don't think he is that bothered to be honest, he is not really a forum person when you get right down to it. What I meant about newbie ignoring was a much mroe general thing than not rolling out the red carpet when someone new comes in, which I agree we do quite admirably. What I meant was that people tend to look out for posts of people they know, and reply to those. Sometimes this can feel like you are being left out of the conversation when you are new, but it is just because people don't know you as well. That is what I think might happen anyway. __________________ [img]\"http://img1.ranchoweb.com/images/sproutman/certwist.gif\" alt=\" - \" /><br /><br /><i>\"And the angels all pallid and wan,<br />Uprising, unveiling, affirm,<br />That the play is the tragedy, man,<br />And its hero the Conquerer Worm.\"</i><br /> - Edgar Allan Poe

02-12-2002, 07:07 AM	#19
Melusine Dracolisk Join Date: January 8, 2001 Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands Age: 44 Posts: 6,541	Hey Barry, I remember Smeagol well! Too bad he's given up on IW, I liked him! [img]smile.gif[/img] [ 02-12-2002: Message edited by: Melusine ] __________________ [img]\"hosted/melusine.jpg\" alt=\" - \" /><br />Your voice is ambrosia

02-12-2002, 07:16 AM	#20
norompanlasolas Avatar Join Date: November 13, 2001 Location: madrid, spain... made in argentina Age: 47 Posts: 569	yep, i remember him from the war forum. he seemed like a cool guy. and let me guess, hes older than you... am i right barry? [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ no

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