rogues suck? and spring attack q

Elijah Snow · 02-02-2004, 12:38 PM

Since I thinkk that this will be shorter, I'll get it out of the way first. What is spring attack, and why can't I get it even though I (I think) have all the prereqs?

And on to the main event.

Is it just me, or do rogues in NWN suck. I don't know, I tried one and I found it to be WILDLY ineffective. What happened to backstab? In BG2 the assasin was so cool! Not to mention it was capable of HEINOUS damage multipliers. What happened to rogues???

The Forum Poster Formerly Known as Decurion, Snow

Stratos · 02-02-2004, 01:23 PM

You need Shadows of Undrentide to use Spring Attack and it makes you invurnerable against the kind of attacks of opportunity moving around causes.

Spring Attack (from the SoU manual):
Prerequisite: Dexterity 13+, Dodge, Mobility, Base Attack Bonus (BAB) +4 or higher.

The Rogues Backstab is replaced with something called Sneak Attack. To do a SA you need to catch the enemy by surprise using stealth, or when their attention is directed at something else. Every time they attack someone else or do the following: cast a spell, fire a ranged weapon or use items you get a chance to sneak attack them if you're withing range. So you don't need to hide in shadows to successfully use a sneak attack, although it's easier if you do.

A 1st level rogue will do an additional 1d6 points of damage on a successful sneak attack and the damage will increase with levels. If you're having problems with sneak attacks; hire a henchman, get the enemy to attack him/her, then attack the enemy yourself and the sneak attacks will be rolling in.

Also note that undead and constructs ( golems etc.) are immune to sneak attacks.

[ 02-02-2004, 01:25 PM: Message edited by: Stratos ]

Elijah Snow · 02-02-2004, 05:12 PM

Ooo. I guess it shows up to try to entice me into buying the expansion. Well...its working. Thanks Stratos. Is there anyway for me to make it more likely that I'll sneak attack?

Stratos · 02-02-2004, 05:44 PM

Yes, either sneak up on them or make them attack someone else instead of you; a summon or a henchman is useful for this.

02-02-2004, 01:23 PM	#2
Stratos Vampire Join Date: January 29, 2003 Location: Sweden Age: 43 Posts: 3,888	You need Shadows of Undrentide to use Spring Attack and it makes you invurnerable against the kind of attacks of opportunity moving around causes. Spring Attack (from the SoU manual): Prerequisite: Dexterity 13+, Dodge, Mobility, Base Attack Bonus (BAB) +4 or higher. The Rogues Backstab is replaced with something called Sneak Attack. To do a SA you need to catch the enemy by surprise using stealth, or when their attention is directed at something else. Every time they attack someone else or do the following: cast a spell, fire a ranged weapon or use items you get a chance to sneak attack them if you're withing range. So you don't need to hide in shadows to successfully use a sneak attack, although it's easier if you do. A 1st level rogue will do an additional 1d6 points of damage on a successful sneak attack and the damage will increase with levels. If you're having problems with sneak attacks; hire a henchman, get the enemy to attack him/her, then attack the enemy yourself and the sneak attacks will be rolling in. Also note that undead and constructs ( golems etc.) are immune to sneak attacks. [ 02-02-2004, 01:25 PM: Message edited by: Stratos ] __________________ Nothing is impossible, it's just a matter of probability.

02-02-2004, 05:44 PM	#4
Stratos Vampire Join Date: January 29, 2003 Location: Sweden Age: 43 Posts: 3,888	Yes, either sneak up on them or make them attack someone else instead of you; a summon or a henchman is useful for this. __________________ Nothing is impossible, it's just a matter of probability.

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02-02-2004, 12:38 PM	#1
Elijah Snow Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: January 28, 2004 Location: Toronto Age: 37 Posts: 14	Since I thinkk that this will be shorter, I'll get it out of the way first. What is spring attack, and why can't I get it even though I (I think) have all the prereqs? And on to the main event. Is it just me, or do rogues in NWN suck. I don't know, I tried one and I found it to be WILDLY ineffective. What happened to backstab? In BG2 the assasin was so cool! Not to mention it was capable of HEINOUS damage multipliers. What happened to rogues??? The Forum Poster Formerly Known as Decurion, Snow

02-02-2004, 05:12 PM	#3
Elijah Snow Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: January 28, 2004 Location: Toronto Age: 37 Posts: 14	Ooo. I guess it shows up to try to entice me into buying the expansion. Well...its working. Thanks Stratos. Is there anyway for me to make it more likely that I'll sneak attack?

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