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Old 05-02-2003, 05:15 PM   #1
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A pretty far reaching bill, interesting twist in the corporation as individual thing [img]smile.gif[/img]

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Senator Proposes 'Three Strikes and Out of Business' State Law

A company's third felony conviction would bring a ban on operating in California.

By Carl Ingram, Times Staff Writer


SACRAMENTO — A "three strikes" bill that would prohibit companies with multiple convictions from doing business in California was launched in the Senate on Tuesday.

Sen. Gloria Romero (D-Los Angeles) said her plan would provide a new level of safety for the public from corporate crimes in the same way that the state's three-strikes law makes citizens safer from other types of criminals.

Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee agreed. On a 5-2 vote over Republican opposition, they sent the bill (SB 335) to the full Senate, where its passage is expected.

Under the measure, sponsored by the Foundation for Taxpayer and Consumer Rights, a business convicted of three felonies in state or federal courts in California would be prevented from doing business in the state.

Proponents of the bill argued that enforcement of existing laws that can put a corporation out of business is weak and seldom exercised. Romero said current penalties are civil fines or financial settlements whose effects are short-lived and can be chalked up by corporate bad actors as merely the cost of doing business.

Revoking a company's ability to do business in the nation's most populous state would be a powerful deterrent against breaking the law. "Most people in California understand the phrase 'three strikes.' Why should white-collar crimes be enforced less seriously?" she said.

The bill drew opposition from the California Chamber of Commerce, whose lobbyist, Dominic DiMare, criticized it as unnecessary. He said it was so broadly written that the criminal activity of only one company executive could set off a chain of events that might bring the entire corporation down, including its subsidiaries in other states.

"It takes people to do the crime, not the corporation," DiMare said.

Under the bill, after the first and second felony "strikes," the business would be required to do public penance by publishing the details of its crime in full-page newspaper ads. The third felony conviction would require the secretary of state to revoke its ability to conduct business in California.

Under the state's pioneering three-strikes law, criminals who commit a third serious or violent felony are sent to prison for 25 years to life.

The Romero plan would provide that the first two strikes against the criminal corporation could occur in any state, not just California. But the third felony would have to be committed in California.

The strikes would apply to virtually any type of felony, ranging from violations of the tax and consumer protection codes to offenses involving civil rights, antitrust and environmental protection, among others.

It would apply to any general corporation, nonprofit public benefit corporation, partnership and limited liability company. The bill also would authorize private attorneys to enforce its provisions.
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Old 05-02-2003, 05:17 PM   #2
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Sounds like a good idea [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-02-2003, 05:28 PM   #3
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Old 05-02-2003, 05:31 PM   #4
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Sounds good to me. Corporates are just as obliged to follow the law as any individual. [img]smile.gif[/img] I remember Trickster´s DVD problems he posted about here. With this law he probably wouldn´t have had that problem.
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Old 05-02-2003, 06:01 PM   #5
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Are we assuming this will have any effect at all, other than possibly depriving Californians of the opportunity to buy certain products? I mean, are they really going to boot Pepsi products out of the state, or is it just going to be a way to get Pepsi to bribe the State's Attorney not to press charges? You remember, the State's Attorney who condones prison rape...
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Old 05-02-2003, 06:06 PM   #6
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After the second strike, I'd file Chapter 11, restructure the corp., and sell it wholesale to another shell corp. I formed in Delaware online inside of 1 hour. No company, new strikes. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Sorry, we attorneys can beat this. I like the full page news ad though.
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Old 05-02-2003, 06:12 PM   #7
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As I work in a Corporation. I don't agree at all with this ruling. luckily, no such ruling overhere. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-02-2003, 06:20 PM   #8
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Timber, quick question. Do you think that PepsiCo (picking a random trade name, not saying they are in violation or anything) could sell its trademark to a shell company and evade the restriction? Because the name Pepsi does have a significant impact on sales, and would be problematic if you could not pass that off to some new corp...
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Old 05-02-2003, 06:24 PM   #9
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Seeing as how California is 30+ BILLION in debt and is already in danger of loosing businesses to other states with lower taxes and greater incentives, it looks like this idea is just another "Lets not make any new power plants and buy our power from someone else and let them get our ass in a sling." type of typical illadvised planning the state is already known for. [img]graemlins/twocents.gif[/img]

Edit: Wonder if theUS wouldnt be better just disowning CA and lowering its weight from the national debt?


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Old 05-02-2003, 06:27 PM   #10
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After the second strike, I'd file Chapter 11, restructure the corp., and sell it wholesale to another shell corp. I formed in Delaware online inside of 1 hour. No company, new strikes. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Sorry, we attorneys can beat this. I like the full page news ad though.
Isn´t this the next "swamp" to clean out?
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