Kyoto Protocol and the Bush Administration

[tracey]

Originally posted by Moni: Fljotsdale, Thank you for your reply! I understand that you weren't implying that I am a negative person in general. Sorry if I do have little faith in mankind, but here in The US at least (the only country I have ever resided in), it is well founded. Can't say I would want to live anywhere else though! I appreciate our freedoms, it would just be nice to know that our world leaders were working for all of us rather than themselves. I liked the Clinton Administration...they did a lot for our country and our morale on a national level (in spite of the intern incident). I know a lot of people who worry every day now that it is over and no one knows what to expect from Dubya. *HUGS* Moni

Why would you not like to live anywhere else. America is not particularly regarded as a 'free' country by Europe - in fact we find america a somewhat distressing mish mash of bizarre and barbaric practices. recent lethal injections, death row, that sort of thing. Europe became rather more civilised after world wars and general naughtiness - so much so that we feel quite comfortable making efforts to talk (despite language and cultural differences). Would that america follow suit.

[Fljotsdale]

Originally posted by tracey: Why would you not like to live anywhere else. America is not particularly regarded as a 'free' country by Europe - in fact we find america a somewhat distressing mish mash of bizarre and barbaric practices. recent lethal injections, death row, that sort of thing. Europe became rather more civilised after world wars and general naughtiness - so much so that we feel quite comfortable making efforts to talk (despite language and cultural differences). Would that america follow suit.[/B]

Errrmmmmm, tracey.... Uh, we ain't THAT different in Europe! And people generally DO prefer the country of their birth! I know I do - I wouldn't really feel safe anywhere else, lol!


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[This message has been edited by Fljotsdale (edited 06-18-2001).]

Hmmm. Bush summarily rejected the Kyoto protocol on climate control, which would have forced the U.S. into a 30% cut in emissions while permitting China, India and most humanity to pollute at will. He knows we cant do it alone. He said he isn't a unilaterist also. I dont beleive he will sign anything close to this either. The "Rapid Reaction Force" in the EU's future plans only exist on paper. A strategic future entails us all. I hate this state of affairs everyone. Lets plant some trees I guess.

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Conan, master of the portal
Keeper of the Sun Sword
Decendent of the Kunze clan
Point man in the battle against evil Balrogs

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[skywalker]

George W. Bush?

I didn't vote for him.

The best thing that has happened since the election (you call that an election?), was when Jim Jeffords from my state of Vermont left the Republican Party. Mostly due to the Bush Administration's views on environment and education.

Makes me proud that I live in Vermont!

See ya in 4 Dubya!


Mark

Skywalker, I didn't either. I was just trying to list facts. I really don't think you should be able to switch in term though. It is a very liberal state I take it, and a fair shake should be made.
Conan

[skywalker]

Conan, my post wasn't pointed at you- just coincidence...that's all. Besides, Bush and the rest of the Republicans had many chances to keep Jeffords from bolting and decided to threaten him instead.

By the way, though I don't believe being a liberal is a nasty thing to be, we are more of a moderate state. I'm independant, I vote for the best person for the job. Jeffords has guts to stand up to the Political Machine. Politicians should vote for the people not with just their party.

End of speech (sorry).

Mark

[Gaelic]

Originally posted by skywalker: Conan, my post wasn't pointed at you- just coincidence...that's all. Besides, Bush and the rest of the Republicans had many chances to keep Jeffords from bolting and decided to threaten him instead. By the way, though I don't believe being a liberal is a nasty thing to be, we are more of a moderate state. I'm independant, I vote for the best person for the job. Jeffords has guts to stand up to the Political Machine. Politicians should vote for the people not with just their party. End of speech (sorry). Mark

No, Jeffords had the guts to buy himself into a longer term committee chairmanship. THAT was what that was all about. Personal power, plain and simple. What about all the people in his state that voted for him because they didn't like either candidate but preferred a republican in office?

Besides, it won't make much difference. Things will not improve until the conservatives quit pandering to the liberals and start acting like conservatives instead of moderates.



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Gaelic

[skywalker]

Well Gaelic,

You just don't know Jim Jeffords, that's all.

Mark

Originally posted by tracey: Why would you not like to live anywhere else. America is not particularly regarded as a 'free' country by Europe - in fact we find america a somewhat distressing mish mash of bizarre and barbaric practices. recent lethal injections, death row, that sort of thing. Europe became rather more civilised after world wars and general naughtiness - so much so that we feel quite comfortable making efforts to talk (despite language and cultural differences). Would that america follow suit.

For one I have never lived anywhere else...I know here though that I have clean water and good beef. (Among other things)
Its not that I approve of everything that goes on here but I do support the death penalty and would like the Govt. to clear out death row for the sake of saving the taxpayer's money and seeing it spent on more appropriate programs, like education and improving the ecological state of our young nation.

Welcome to the Forum Tracy!


Moni



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[caleb]

Originally posted by tracey: Originally posted by Moni: Fljotsdale, Thank you for your reply! I understand that you weren't implying that I am a negative person in general. Sorry if I do have little faith in mankind, but here in The US at least (the only country I have ever resided in), it is well founded. Can't say I would want to live anywhere else though! I appreciate our freedoms, it would just be nice to know that our world leaders were working for all of us rather than themselves. I liked the Clinton Administration...they did a lot for our country and our morale on a national level (in spite of the intern incident). I know a lot of people who worry every day now that it is over and no one knows what to expect from Dubya. *HUGS* Moni Why would you not like to live anywhere else. America is not particularly regarded as a 'free' country by Europe - in fact we find america a somewhat distressing mish mash of bizarre and barbaric practices. recent lethal injections, death row, that sort of thing. Europe became rather more civilised after world wars and general naughtiness - so much so that we feel quite comfortable making efforts to talk (despite language and cultural differences). Would that america follow suit.

Welcome to yank bashing thread 2: bash with a vengeance

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