Crusade bonus

[eddie-c]

Does the Crusade bonus only work when a char is still a paladin or does
it stay? (I've just gotten to Skull Castle, lots of undead)

Something annoying in the game is that some traits only seem to
appear after you reach a certain level in the guild so, if you
change class before the trait becomes available, you won't get it.
(At least that is what it seems like to me)

[Radek]

It works all the time no matter which class you are. If you are elf then the bonus is applied after the elven bonus. Therefore, You get 10% XP more because you are an elf and then the amount of XP doubles because you have the trait [img]smile.gif[/img]

(edit) You MUST be a paladin if you want the trait! The trait is offered ONLY to paladins (Temple, guild level 5)! Then you can change role. The trait will continue working.

[ 05-07-2003, 08:06 AM: Message edited by: Radek ]

[eddie-c]

Thanks Radek.

[pout] My 2 fighters can't get crusade then because Temple level 5 is later
in the game.

[eddie-c]

Err, lemme rephrase - i changed classes on some chars before crusade was available. (Is there a list of what traits become available at what level for the guilds?)

[Radek]

It§s somewhere in the "best tips". IIRC then:

The Temple:
Artifacts - level 3, all roles
Cabalist - level 4, all roles
Crusade - level 5, only paladins
Healer - level 5, all roles
Quickspeak, level 5, all roles
Oath of Scrolls, level 6, all roles

The Mages Guild:
Artifacts - level 3, all roles
Occultist - level 4, all roles
Quickspeak - level 5, all roles
Oath of Scrolls - level 6, all roles

The Warrior Guild:
Blacksmith - level 3, all roles
Doublestrike - level 4, all roles
Ironmight - level 5, all roles
Stunning Blow - level 5, only barbarians
Fletchery - level 5, only rangers
Oath of Swords - level 6, all roles

Bushi Dojo
Tiger Strike - level 4 (or 5?), only zenmasters??
Spirit Shield - level 4 (or 5?), only zenmasters?? (does not work in unpatched game)
Chi Master - level 5, only zenmasters, must(?) be level 15
Enlightement - level 6, only zenmasters, must be level 18

The Thief Guild:
Merchant - level 3, all roles
Deadfall - level 4, only thieves??
Iron Lung - level 5, only some thieves??
Backstab - level 6, all roles??

[eddie-c]

Danke schoen!

i could say I wish I'd known/looked for those before, but then knowing
"everything" beforehand can spoil the gameplay sometimes. (Even though
the traits are useful to know - thinking more of some of the other
tips/cheats etc)

[bsftcs]

What do you mean? Traits are the only things that matter. [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]

Remember that the special roles in the game have so called high level traits. They are quite good, but you have to take your characters to level 18.

[Olli Kalma]

Couple of things to change:

The Thief Guild:
Deadfall - level 4, thieves & bard ( maybe barbarian too ) (also in Bushi Dojo)
Backstab - level 5, become assassin or to all roles at level 5
Iron Lung - level 5, barbarians and bards (maybe thieves & assassins too)

Bushi Dojo:
Tiger Strike - level 5, available to zenmasters and samurai.
Spirit Shield - level 6, to all classes (worked with my unpatched game [img]smile.gif[/img] )

The Warrior Guild:
Ironmight - level 4, all roles


I hate that I cannot get Crusade before crypt!
I changed my priest into Paladin, when I remembered that he could
get Crusade then... But he only get that Noble Cause.
Well it's good too, cause it raises damage and hit against undead.

[LiOnHe@rT]

there is the ultimate (ok maybe not THAT ultimate) trait, Enlightenment, which u can only get when u become a ZENMASTER and u ascend to the 18th lvl right?
hmm, crusade really sounds like a power trait, but pity that i only haf it on 1 of my characters! [img]graemlins/crying.gif[/img]

[Bungleau]

I don't think Spirit Shield was available to Missy as an Assassin. It didn't show up until she switched classes.