09-06-2008, 02:47 PM | #11 | |
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Re: Remember that Dutch comic about Mohamad?
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A fundamentalist pacifist is one who believes in the fundamentals of pacifism, rather than a moderate view that incorporates pragmatic shifts away from pacifism. Fundamentalism in Christianity has been mislabeled so that radicals with non-mainstream interpretations are called "fundamentalists" which actually muddies the waters, because a fundamentalist Christian who adheres to the fundamentals of Christianity would demonstrate forgiveness, love, kindness, care for orphans and widows, nonviolence, faith, charity and mercy. How are any of those things "mental"? |
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09-06-2008, 03:59 PM | #12 | |
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Yes, we (Christians) should be holding to all those things and more.
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09-06-2008, 04:01 PM | #13 |
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Re: Remember that Dutch comic about Mohamad?
I think the root problem is, in light of the recent press the FDLC has received, people confuse the word radical with the word fundamental.
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09-06-2008, 04:56 PM | #14 | |
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You can spell fundamental, without mental
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09-06-2008, 05:30 PM | #15 |
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09-06-2008, 10:15 PM | #16 | |
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09-06-2008, 11:36 PM | #17 | |
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Describing something and endorsing it are two very different things. The bible describes myriad people in painful honesty, many times without passing judgement either way. It just describes it. Other times it does pass judgment or shows the negative consequences of evil. What behaviour it does endorse, it makes very clear. Lot doesn't destroy the city. Lot tries to prevent two male guests of his from being gang raped by a crowd, who were then trying to kill the whole family. But Jesus turns around and dies on the cross for the same kind of people that were in that town. Jesus forgives and loves and dies for the Sodomite-rapist, and so that is the fundamental example a Christian fundamentalist would follow: Love, compassion, forgiveness, mercy, kindness, patience and self sacrifice. Last edited by Yorick; 09-06-2008 at 11:46 PM. |
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09-07-2008, 12:03 AM | #18 |
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Re: Remember that Dutch comic about Mohamad?
If I may add one more thing to that - and it's a separate thought, hence the separate post - it's that many equate a fundamentalist Christian with some firebrand preacher who spouts some anti-gay rhetoric and then exalts when misfortune befalls a gay person(s).
However, it is possible to believe homosexuality is a sin - and so not practice homosexuality oneself - while loving, respecting, caring for and befriending people who practice homosexuality. Christians manage to go into jails to share, pastor, entertain or help murderers yet don't commit murder. Jesus hung out with tax-collectors yet didn't cheat people or overcharge them like the IRS... I mean tax collectors did. A fundamentalist Christian would attempt to live the way Jesus has demonstrated and asked us to live, the way Paul has elaborated on, yet not judge, condemn or hate people who do not. The fundamental commandment Jesus gives us is to love one another. |
09-07-2008, 12:57 AM | #19 |
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Re: Remember that Dutch comic about Mohamad?
As far as I'm aware we still have a moratorium on religion, but things are being civil so I will pretend I didn't see anything so long as it's about sharing and listening to opinions and it's not denouncing anything.
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09-07-2008, 07:34 AM | #20 |
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Yorick; I love you!
You said that so well in the 2 posts. It's about hating the act, never the person. The thing is that we tend to view sin in degrees. "The murderer, the rapist, the pedofile etc are all worse than I am." Not true! God sees all sin as equal. If we can remember that, it makes it a lot easier to bridge those gaps. Well, I'm off to church. Be well my cyber family, I love you all!
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