Diet Aids and Weight loss products

[Larry_OHF]

My wife is in her Senior year of Diearty Nutrition, and says that some of those popular diets out today are actually very harmful to the body. Some call for specific foods to be eaten or not eaten, and she had an oral presentation to deliver in class one day that described why each of the selected diets could cause health problems. She is so bold as to have actually cut in on a conversation that two women were having in a resturant one day when the topic of diet programs came up, and one lady was prescribing a plan to her friend. My wife jumped in and explained why the mentioned plan was dangerous. I love my wifey!

[Attalus]

Larry, I have no idea what diet your lovely wife is disparaging, but I hope that it wasn't the low-carb ones, because I lost 80lb. on the Atkins plan, and Gal lost 34. (She had just had Will). Kept it off, too. In 28 years of practicing medicine, I have never seen one do harm to a patient.

[The Hunter of Jahanna]

Dont people know that the best diet aid in the world is crack cocain !! Look at how thin and sexy your average 3 rock a day crack head looks. Crack heads get plenty of exercise as well , since they are always running from cops and angry dealers. Since most hard core crack heads dont have any teeth they dont need to eat much. Crack is starting to sound like a good diet plan , isnt it? plenty of exercise and contolled hunger all for only $15 a day. A real bargain if you look at the price of some of the over the counter stuff like fat trappers. Look out Germany , here I come with a case of rocks and a hunger for some of that 20 million euro diet market.

[Larry_OHF]

Attalus, I am speaking from text in Bio-chemistry, not the medical field.

I suppose the medical field and the dietetics field don't always agree with one another. The bio-chemistry class she took is but one of many classes in the Nutrition field. And one teacher's opinion can be completely opposite of another's of the same profession.

No disrespect meant in this post to your input. But you don't have to listen to your wife come home from school and tell you word for word everything she had learned that day. I only had her side of the story, but yes...the one that you mentioned is one of those that she learned was not a healthy diet,,,even if it works, doesn't mean it is without it's faults.

Originally posted by MagiK: Im just flummoxed by the amount to money going into this sort of stuff. You would think that with that kind of backing they would be able to come up with a product that works. Man Moni..tapeworm..ya know..that might actually help [img]smile.gif[/img] what are the down side of hacing one? and is it hard to remove really LARGE ones [img]smile.gif[/img] Im headed to Mexico oops...just thought of something....if they ever did come up with aproduct that worked....they would quicly go out of business....so I guess that will never happen

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Problems arise when the tapeworm becomes too large and starts blocking the bowel or robbing us of vital nutrients - the large tapeworms may cause deficiencies of vitamins such as B12 if left for too long,

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Different types of tapeworm embryos are capabe of encysting themselves in various internal organs of humans, most commonly in the liver but also including the lungs and the brain.
As they grow larger, they gradually replace the tissue in which they grow. Worse still, should a cyst rupture, the release of foreign parasite proteins into the body can trigger a massive and sometimes fatal allergic reaction.
In the liver, the cysts produced by these embryos are called hydatid cysts, and the infestation of the liver is called hydatid disease. The only means of treating hydatid cysts is through surgical removal, and the surgeons must be very careful not to rupture the cyst during removal, due to the risk of allergic reaction and the fact that protoscolices may be capable of starting "daughter" cysts.

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Beef tapeworms normally produce abdominal discomfort, diarrhea, constipation, and can contribute to weight loss. The most common area for beef tapeworm infestation is in the United States. To guard against infestation, become a vegan or cook your meat thoroughly.

If someone harbors a pork tapeworm, they pose a risk to themselves and others around them of developing cysticercosis. These cycticerci may lodge in the brain, eye or muscle, causing serious problems. Furthermore, if the body kills the parasites, calcium salts are laid down in their place, creating tiny pebbles in the soft tissue.

Dipylidium, the dog/cat tapeworm is contracted by your animals' ingestion of fleas.
Humans are also prey to this parasite and can contract it by allowing the animal to lick your mouth which may transfer the larval tapeworms to your mouth or while crushing the fleas between your fingernails or fingers as this spreads the parasites across your hands.

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(Pharmocological) quinacrine hydrochloride (Atabrine) or niclosamide, which kill the worm.

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[ 06-09-2002, 08:13 PM: Message edited by: Moni ]

[Deathcow]

LOL, i cant believe some people will try parasites to get skinny instead of getting off their arses and exercising [img]graemlins/1puke.gif[/img]

theyll even go to mexico to get them! thats incredible...leaving the country to avoid exercise, lol

[Attalus]

Originally posted by Larry_OHF: Attalus, I am speaking from text in Bio-chemistry, not the medical field. I suppose the medical field and the dietetics field don't always agree with one another. The bio-chemistry class she took is but one of many classes in the Nutrition field. And one teacher's opinion can be completely opposite of another's of the same profession. No disrespect meant in this post to your input. But you don't have to listen to your wife come home from school and tell you word for word everything she had learned that day. I only had her side of the story, but yes...the one that you mentioned is one of those that she learned was not a healthy diet,,,even if it works, doesn't mean it is without it's faults.

No sweat, Larry, I have been arguing with dieticians about this for so long that I sort of saw it coming. The problem is that many people mistake ketosis (the condition of having ketones in your blood, seen in anybody while dieting) with ketoacidosis (the condition, seenin diabetics, of having so many ketones in your blood that your acid:base balance is altered, perhaps fatally.) I know well that I am not gonna convince anyone here, but suffice it tsay that my weight (and Gal's) remain down, my cholesterol and triglycerides are normal, and I feel great.

[dizzy]

heck, I am trying to gain more weight, not loose it!

[mistral4543]

It's pretty dangerous to take dieting pills, especially when one has no idea of whether it has been tampered with.

One person over here has died from liver failure; the pill she took was allegedly contaminated with some poisons (I say "allegedly" because the case has not been dealt with in our court yet; the deceased's family is suing the company which franchised it). Another person narrowly avoided death because her fiance donated part of his liver to replace hers... again, it is suspected that the liver failure is linked to the dieting pill in the first case. It's really quite terrifying to think of how many others out there have consumed this stuff and the various stages of damage their livers are in

[ 06-10-2002, 12:03 AM: Message edited by: mistral4543 ]

Originally posted by dizzy: heck, I am trying to gain more weight, not loose it!

You and me both lol!
I did gain ten pounds once...by eating three square meals a day plus snacks and working out vigorously every day. It took six months and I couldn't, for the life of me, gain another pound!
After an auto accident, I couldn't move around too much while recovering and by the time I had recovered I was ten pounds lighter.
(we don't have the smiley to express how I feel about this lol)
Being permanemtly skinny is as much a curse as being constantly overweight but with much less risk to one's overall physical health unless it turns into something like starvation or anerexia where you deprive yourself of vital nutrients and destroy your digestive system in the process..

Still, I think a proper diet (speaking in terms of what is good for you, not what you deprive yourself of) and exercise are much smarter ways to fight weight-gain than sitting on your duff, taking expensive pills, and expecting to see significant results in the mirror without any effort given to change your eating and exercise habits.

[ 06-10-2002, 12:15 AM: Message edited by: Moni ]