Catholic crackdown doing its job?

Originally posted by Melusine: Listen, Gaunty. First of all, I don't know what you've been smoking but you are just barely on the level of legibility with your posts. Your profile says that you are from America, well, I can only hope you weren't born there and English is not your first language, because if not, you should be ashamed that a non-native speaker can spell better than you in your own language. Secondly, homosexuality and paedophilia are two completely different things. Lots of paedophiles are actually heterosexual - the deviancy lies in the fact that they prey on children instead of having adult relationships.

Hooked on phonics.....worked for him?

[gaunty]

yes, I know that my spelling and choice of words are bad, I will
try to improve them.

the management in hollywood is making a big profit by pushing the
pro-gay lifestyle.

freedom deprived people around the world are trying to live the lifestyle coming from the usa tv/movie market.
the preception is if there are gay's, murder's, rapest's, con artest's,racest's or terrorist's in prominent roles on tv, it most
be good. if that thilth is going on in usa, why can't i do it in...
england. most sex crimes are copy act's comming from tv, the movie's, or from xxxxxx porn
most child pediphile's get the idea to this from the porn market.

[Melusine]

I cannot say anything but that you're SERIOUSLY misinformed and ignorant. Sorry, that's just how it is. I'd gladly counter your points, but somehow, I don't think it's worth the bother.

[Micah Foehammer]

Eloquently stated, Melusine. [img]smile.gif[/img] And dead on the money!

[AzureWolf]

Originally posted by gaunty: yes, I know that my spelling and choice of words are bad, I will try to improve them. the management in hollywood is making a big profit by pushing the pro-gay lifestyle. freedom deprived people around the world are trying to live the lifestyle coming from the usa tv/movie market. the preception is if there are gay's, murder's, rapest's, con artest's,racest's or terrorist's in prominent roles on tv, it most be good. if that thilth is going on in usa, why can't i do it in... england. most sex crimes are copy act's comming from tv, the movie's, or from xxxxxx porn most child pediphile's get the idea to this from the porn market.

I am not even homosexual myself but still I find myself very deeply offended that you place being gay in the same category with murderers, rapists and terrorists. You have one very warped source of info my friend.

[ 04-26-2002, 08:24 PM: Message edited by: AzureWolf ]

[Aar-Daneel]

Originally posted by Sir Taliesin: quote: Originally posted by Melusine: quote: Originally posted by Sigmar: quote: Originally posted by gaunty: here in usa, a ageing has-been hollywood superstar is to be on a pro gay prime time tv show. the management in hollywood and in the tv/cable networks, are teaching and promoting the gay mantality. if the gay permisquessness is not taught and promoted, gay life and gay related mulestation would not be a profitable market. yes I know that there a lot of you who like to wait untill after the bamage is done. let's not go after any major corporation. let's just wait untill after a gay rape in "A" church on our children has been done. let's wait untill there "IS" a (gay caused) kiddy porn market. then we will clean up the mess after it is way to late.

I think I know what you are trying to say. Do you mind explaining what you were trying to say in other words though just to make sure. You want action to be taken before any harm comes to our children, you are suggesting that action should be taken now. That's ok but you have to understand what Melusine said, the two words are not directly related, they are differant topics (they could be the same though). So make you're post clearer vbecause I didn't understand the first section of it please.[/QUOTE]Sigmar - I'll translate it for you.

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Here in the USA, an aging has-been Hollywood superstar is to appear on a pro-gay prime time TV show. The management in Hollywood and in the TV/cable networks are teaching and promoting the gay mentality.
If the gay promiscuity is not taught and promoted, gay life and gay-related molestation would not be a profitable market. Yes, I know that there are a lot of you who'd like to wait until
after the damage is done. Let's not go after any major corporation.
lLet's just wait until after a gay rape in "A" church on our children
has been done. Let's wait untill there "IS" a (gay-caused) kiddy porn
market. Then we will clean up the mess, after it is way too late.
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and his earlier post:

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He he hee ha ha he lol lol laugh a whole lot.

Let's start with the problem of gays getting mariage rights.
Then let's look at that posibility that paedophiles become paedophiles because they were first gay. Now we have gay paedophiles who are Catholic priests. All of you have blasted the bible-angle and not the gay-angle .... lol...what are you afraid of...lol..
We want the gays out of the church.
We want the gays out of the boy scouts.
Now will we get the gays out the hollywood and tv prime time
....lol... oh no.. We can't do any thing like anti-gay cleaning
in the tv cable market, that would be the ultimate sacrilege.
Slap me saying such evil things.


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I feel defiled and sick simply by having had to type that out - it doesn't need the correct spelling to see this is one seriously disturbed intolerant message.[/QUOTE]Mel I'm sorry you had to translate that too. I thought that was what he or she was trying to say. Sad to say that we have people of such intolerence here, but we do. There is no place on this forum for comments or opinions like that here at IW.[/QUOTE]IMOSVH

i think you should concentrate on the point of disussion if you are going to BOTHER writing ANYTHING, consentrate less on spelling and grammer (if you had a SERIOUS problem in translation, then you're the one with the speech problem.) and think more about the point being raised. YOU seem to be talkng about tolerances, hmmm that's interesting coming from someone who can't even read a point of view (basic 1st ammendment stuff) without showing off their conceited attitude at learning someone elses language (melusine).
thInk at what was said and all of you reactions (tolerance?).
i have a news flash , gang!
TOLERANCE AND POLITICAL CORRECTNESS IS WHAT CAUSED THE BL**DY MESS WE'RE ALL IN NOW.

TOLERANCE EQUATES TO THE ABILITY TO NOT GIVE A DAMN

AND IF YOU DON'T GIVE A DAMN, YOU END UP WITH A MESS

A FEW MORE INTOLERANCE (and i'm not suggesting we all turn into raving maniacs BENT on revenge) WOULD MAKE FOR A BETTER SAFER WORLD FOR EVERYONE.

PLEASE THINK SERIOUSLY ABOUT THIS:-

we are all aware of the life shattering effects, abuse on a victim, has, feelings of loathing (self), guilt, fear, to name but a few all lasting to the end of your days (help or no help) and interfering with every decision you ever make (they MAY come to terms with what happened, but it would be with them till the day they died!
just think of the healing powers the ability of REAL justice (remember the bilble, an eye for an eye) would have for a victim.

scenario: abuse victim armoured to the hilt ( to prevent injury) with a gun (and back up if neccessary) gets to hunt down like a dog the person who harmed them (the choice being theirs to take or spare the life when the hunt was over).how much would that go toward healing in irrevocably shattered life.

[ 04-26-2002, 09:52 PM: Message edited by: Aar-Daneel ]

[Alexander]

Originally posted by Aar-Daneel: quote: Originally posted by Sir Taliesin: quote: Originally posted by Melusine: quote: Originally posted by Sigmar: quote: Originally posted by gaunty: here in usa, a ageing has-been hollywood superstar is to be on a pro gay prime time tv show. the management in hollywood and in the tv/cable networks, are teaching and promoting the gay mantality. if the gay permisquessness is not taught and promoted, gay life and gay related mulestation would not be a profitable market. yes I know that there a lot of you who like to wait untill after the bamage is done. let's not go after any major corporation. let's just wait untill after a gay rape in "A" church on our children has been done. let's wait untill there "IS" a (gay caused) kiddy porn market. then we will clean up the mess after it is way to late.

I think I know what you are trying to say. Do you mind explaining what you were trying to say in other words though just to make sure. You want action to be taken before any harm comes to our children, you are suggesting that action should be taken now. That's ok but you have to understand what Melusine said, the two words are not directly related, they are differant topics (they could be the same though). So make you're post clearer vbecause I didn't understand the first section of it please.[/QUOTE]Sigmar - I'll translate it for you.

~~~~~~~~~~~
Here in the USA, an aging has-been Hollywood superstar is to appear on a pro-gay prime time TV show. The management in Hollywood and in the TV/cable networks are teaching and promoting the gay mentality.
If the gay promiscuity is not taught and promoted, gay life and gay-related molestation would not be a profitable market. Yes, I know that there are a lot of you who'd like to wait until
after the damage is done. Let's not go after any major corporation.
lLet's just wait until after a gay rape in "A" church on our children
has been done. Let's wait untill there "IS" a (gay-caused) kiddy porn
market. Then we will clean up the mess, after it is way too late.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

and his earlier post:

~~~~~~~~~~~~

He he hee ha ha he lol lol laugh a whole lot.

Let's start with the problem of gays getting mariage rights.
Then let's look at that posibility that paedophiles become paedophiles because they were first gay. Now we have gay paedophiles who are Catholic priests. All of you have blasted the bible-angle and not the gay-angle .... lol...what are you afraid of...lol..
We want the gays out of the church.
We want the gays out of the boy scouts.
Now will we get the gays out the hollywood and tv prime time
....lol... oh no.. We can't do any thing like anti-gay cleaning
in the tv cable market, that would be the ultimate sacrilege.
Slap me saying such evil things.


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I feel defiled and sick simply by having had to type that out - it doesn't need the correct spelling to see this is one seriously disturbed intolerant message.[/QUOTE]Mel I'm sorry you had to translate that too. I thought that was what he or she was trying to say. Sad to say that we have people of such intolerence here, but we do. There is no place on this forum for comments or opinions like that here at IW.[/QUOTE]IMOSVH

i think you should concentrate on the point of disussion if you are going to BOTHER writing ANYTHING, consentrate less on spelling and grammer (if you had a SERIOUS problem in translation, then you're the one with the speech problem.) and think more about the point being raised. YOU seem to be talkng about tolerances, hmmm that's interesting coming from someone who can't even read a point of view (basic 1st ammendment stuff) without showing off their conceited attitude at learning someone elses language (melusine).
thInk at what was said and all of you reactions (tolerance?).
i have a news flash , gang!
TOLERANCE AND POLITICAL CORRECTNESS IS WHAT CAUSED THE BL**DY MESS WE'RE ALL IN NOW.

TOLERANCE EQUATES TO THE ABILITY TO NOT GIVE A DAMN

AND IF YOU DON'T GIVE A DAMN, YOU END UP WITH A MESS

A FEW MORE INTOLERANCE (and i'm not suggesting we all turn into raving maniacs BENT on revenge) WOULD MAKE FOR A BETTER SAFER WORLD FOR EVERYONE.[/QUOTE]That is quite possibly the stupidest thing I have ever heard, do you know anything??

[Alexander]

Originally posted by gaunty: yes, I know that my spelling and choice of words are bad, I will try to improve them. the management in hollywood is making a big profit by pushing the pro-gay lifestyle. freedom deprived people around the world are trying to live the lifestyle coming from the usa tv/movie market. the preception is if there are gay's, murder's, rapest's, con artest's,racest's or terrorist's in prominent roles on tv, it most be good. if that thilth is going on in usa, why can't i do it in... england. most sex crimes are copy act's comming from tv, the movie's, or from xxxxxx porn most child pediphile's get the idea to this from the porn market.

And what, exactly, is wrong with being gay?

[Aar-Daneel]

oh here we go another top notch salient point of view from the supposedly tolerant and evolved

alexander wrote

That is quite possibly the stupidest thing I have ever heard, do you know anything??

i have beenn reading all of the posts thinking about them and i have contributed two thought about, discussionable(? (how's my spelling and grammer)) points of view (whether or not you agree with them).
what did you contribute.....two lines of writing(?) that adds nothing and does nothing except show how ignorant you are. NO there is nothing wrong with being gay (some people ( i do not agree with this) do not like and/or feel uncomfortable with gay men and woman.
why so defensive?
are you gay? if so then, please, you will understand the fact the people in life have to follow their own heart and mind (in speech and non intrusive action of couse.)whether you agree or not.

[ 04-26-2002, 10:14 PM: Message edited by: Aar-Daneel ]

[LennonCook]

Originally posted by gaunty: yes, I know that my spelling and choice of words are bad, I will try to improve them. the management in hollywood is making a big profit by pushing the pro-gay lifestyle. freedom deprived people around the world are trying to live the lifestyle coming from the usa tv/movie market. the preception is if there are gay's, murder's, rapest's, con artest's,racest's or terrorist's in prominent roles on tv, it most be good. if that thilth is going on in usa, why can't i do it in... england. most sex crimes are copy act's comming from tv, the movie's, or from xxxxxx porn most child pediphile's get the idea to this from the porn market.

Media to blame for people participating in murder, rape, con, and homosexuality ?? Ok, murder I will agree with rape I will agree with, con artists I will agree with,
But homosexuality ?? There is nothing morally wrong with homosexuality. It exists freely, it isnt a crime.
To be "gay" or "straight" is not a legal nor moral concern, but rather a personal one. It is a decision which must be made by each person individually, conciously or otherwise, without risking jail terms, or having it be a moral decision.
You are aloud to have your views on homosexuality, but as it isnt a legal issue, you should not class it in the same way as rape or murder; and should definately not post it at a forum where children as young as 13 and 14 visit regularly.