Jim( or anyone who knows images :D ), need a quik answer

daan · 01-17-2003, 04:59 PM

What size do the pics need to be to get them in the page .. 56k friendly ?
The original size seems a little big ...

EDIT:
Its 1024 x 768 now

[ 01-17-2003, 05:01 PM: Message edited by: daan ]

Pyrenk · 01-17-2003, 05:13 PM

UPDATED: Be Sig Smart: The larger your image in your sig, the longer it takes for others to load it. Don't forget, MANY people still use dial-up internet, and huge images take a LONG time to download. we allow the following as per signatures:

We allow up to 2 Images in your sig. But, we prefer you use 1 or combine the 2 into one image. If you use 1 image in your signature, you are allowed the image resolution to be 225x155, and no more than 150Kb in size. This NEW Size will take effect on January 27th 2002. Anyone before that time will still be allowed to keep their slightly larger sig.

If you wish to use 2 images, both images must be no larger than 280x220 combined in resolution, and 150Kb in size as well. Your text sig or 'tagline' must not exceed 300 characters as well.

If you do not follow these rules, your profile may be edited, your image removed and account profile locked out to modification.

----------Taken from "Rules and Regulations"----------

daan · 01-17-2003, 05:16 PM

ehr ... but I have a lot more than two images.
They're down to 592 x 444 now.
I'm using *swashbuckler vs. improved Irenicus* as an example ...
Uploading them to a webhost now

EDIT:
Taking This topic as an example

EDITEDIT:
Wooopsie

and fixed

[ 01-17-2003, 05:29 PM: Message edited by: daan ]

Pyrenk · 01-17-2003, 05:26 PM

www.google.com is a topic? Whoa...

daan · 01-17-2003, 05:28 PM

[img]tongue.gif[/img] Fixed

LennonCook · 01-17-2003, 09:45 PM

If you`re going to put them in your signature, follow those rules; if you just want to put them in a post, converting them from bitmaps to jpegs should be enough. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Rataxes · 01-17-2003, 10:01 PM

If you got them on a really fast server, a 56Kbit modem could download a 100kb pic in about 14 seconds, or 7 Kb per second. Now say you got a *really* long intro which takes the average person about 2 minutes to read through, that should give them enough time to download 840 Kb worth of images.

So if you got 10 images, keeping them in the 80-90 Kb range should be fine, IF you have a fast server that is. Graffiti.net is a pretty slow server which doesn't give you anywhere near 7 Kb per second, but I heard you switched, so that might not be a problem [img]smile.gif[/img]

daan · 01-18-2003, 08:22 AM

Are you saying my intro's too long

!!??

Changing webhost now btw..

Rataxes · 01-18-2003, 09:26 AM

You got two and a half pretty damn huge paragraphs before the first image, so, YES! But it's all good [img]smile.gif[/img] Don't mind reading a lot as long as it's interesting [img]smile.gif[/img]

Jim · 01-18-2003, 03:18 PM

Hmm, not sure where all this talk about signatures has come from, daan wants the images for his improved Irenicus story.

Size isn't really the problem here, its image quality. I've taken screenshots at 800x600, and then reduced the quality using photoshop, and these have been fine for 56k users to download.

You can set an image lossy percentage (100 being maximum, 0 being the lowest) within most good image editing programs. 20 is a reasonable compromise here and will ensure that your filesize isn't too big at the expense of some quality.

Also worth using is a 'progressive' feature of jpeg images (you can set this in Photoshop/PSP/Fireworks etc), which will allow users to download them in multiple passes, so at least they can see the images appearing instead of staring at a blank space until the image has been fully downloaded.

01-17-2003, 04:59 PM	#1
daan Silver Dragon Join Date: August 25, 2001 Location: - Age: 38 Posts: 1,644	What size do the pics need to be to get them in the page .. 56k friendly ? The original size seems a little big ... EDIT: Its 1024 x 768 now [ 01-17-2003, 05:01 PM: Message edited by: daan ] __________________ <strong> Odi et Amo. Quare id faciam facisse requires ? Nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior </strong><br /><br /><strong> Amantem cogit amare magis, sed bene velle minus </strong>

01-17-2003, 05:13 PM	#2
Pyrenk Symbol of Cyric Join Date: January 2, 2003 Location: Old Bethpage, Long Island Age: 35 Posts: 1,156	UPDATED: Be Sig Smart: The larger your image in your sig, the longer it takes for others to load it. Don't forget, MANY people still use dial-up internet, and huge images take a LONG time to download. we allow the following as per signatures: We allow up to 2 Images in your sig. But, we prefer you use 1 or combine the 2 into one image. If you use 1 image in your signature, you are allowed the image resolution to be 225x155, and no more than 150Kb in size. This NEW Size will take effect on January 27th 2002. Anyone before that time will still be allowed to keep their slightly larger sig. If you wish to use 2 images, both images must be no larger than 280x220 combined in resolution, and 150Kb in size as well. Your text sig or 'tagline' must not exceed 300 characters as well. If you do not follow these rules, your profile may be edited, your image removed and account profile locked out to modification. ----------Taken from "Rules and Regulations"---------- __________________

01-17-2003, 05:16 PM	#3
daan Silver Dragon Join Date: August 25, 2001 Location: - Age: 38 Posts: 1,644	ehr ... but I have a lot more than two images. They're down to 592 x 444 now. I'm using swashbuckler vs. improved Irenicus as an example ... Uploading them to a webhost now EDIT: Taking This topic as an example EDITEDIT: Wooopsie and fixed [ 01-17-2003, 05:29 PM: Message edited by: daan ] __________________ <strong> Odi et Amo. Quare id faciam facisse requires ? Nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior </strong><br /><br /><strong> Amantem cogit amare magis, sed bene velle minus </strong>

01-17-2003, 05:26 PM	#4
Pyrenk Symbol of Cyric Join Date: January 2, 2003 Location: Old Bethpage, Long Island Age: 35 Posts: 1,156	www.google.com is a topic? Whoa... __________________

01-17-2003, 05:28 PM	#5
daan Silver Dragon Join Date: August 25, 2001 Location: - Age: 38 Posts: 1,644	[img]tongue.gif[/img] Fixed __________________ <strong> Odi et Amo. Quare id faciam facisse requires ? Nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior </strong><br /><br /><strong> Amantem cogit amare magis, sed bene velle minus </strong>

01-17-2003, 09:45 PM	#6
LennonCook Jack Burton Join Date: November 10, 2001 Location: Bathurst & Orange, in constant flux Age: 37 Posts: 5,452	If you`re going to put them in your signature, follow those rules; if you just want to put them in a post, converting them from bitmaps to jpegs should be enough. [img]smile.gif[/img]

01-17-2003, 10:01 PM	#7
Rataxes Symbol of Cyric Join Date: November 17, 2002 Location: Sweden Age: 38 Posts: 1,359	If you got them on a really fast server, a 56Kbit modem could download a 100kb pic in about 14 seconds, or 7 Kb per second. Now say you got a really long intro which takes the average person about 2 minutes to read through, that should give them enough time to download 840 Kb worth of images. So if you got 10 images, keeping them in the 80-90 Kb range should be fine, IF you have a fast server that is. Graffiti.net is a pretty slow server which doesn't give you anywhere near 7 Kb per second, but I heard you switched, so that might not be a problem [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ [img]\"http://atlas.walagata.com/w/rataxes/ymca3.jpg\" alt=\" - \" /><br />I want <b>YOU!</b>

01-18-2003, 08:22 AM	#8
daan Silver Dragon Join Date: August 25, 2001 Location: - Age: 38 Posts: 1,644	Are you saying my intro's too long !!?? Changing webhost now btw.. __________________ <strong> Odi et Amo. Quare id faciam facisse requires ? Nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior </strong><br /><br /><strong> Amantem cogit amare magis, sed bene velle minus </strong>

01-18-2003, 09:26 AM	#9
Rataxes Symbol of Cyric Join Date: November 17, 2002 Location: Sweden Age: 38 Posts: 1,359	You got two and a half pretty damn huge paragraphs before the first image, so, YES! But it's all good [img]smile.gif[/img] Don't mind reading a lot as long as it's interesting [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ [img]\"http://atlas.walagata.com/w/rataxes/ymca3.jpg\" alt=\" - \" /><br />I want <b>YOU!</b>

01-18-2003, 03:18 PM	#10
Jim Quintesson Join Date: May 1, 2001 Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire, England Age: 43 Posts: 1,088	Hmm, not sure where all this talk about signatures has come from, daan wants the images for his improved Irenicus story. Size isn't really the problem here, its image quality. I've taken screenshots at 800x600, and then reduced the quality using photoshop, and these have been fine for 56k users to download. You can set an image lossy percentage (100 being maximum, 0 being the lowest) within most good image editing programs. 20 is a reasonable compromise here and will ensure that your filesize isn't too big at the expense of some quality. Also worth using is a 'progressive' feature of jpeg images (you can set this in Photoshop/PSP/Fireworks etc), which will allow users to download them in multiple passes, so at least they can see the images appearing instead of staring at a blank space until the image has been fully downloaded.

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