Fire Spells

Eagle eye · 05-07-2005, 09:02 PM

Is it possible to get my priest to learn fire spells? How?
I am trying to go by without having a wizard...

jsalsb · 05-07-2005, 09:18 PM

Hi there!

If you want to do without a wizard, you'll need to train up one of your characters as a samurai to get sun spells. Or collect the four tomes and become a zenmaster... they get everything!

Of course, you can always have a priest switch to wizard (through warlock...), train up in sun magic as high as you want, then switch back to a more priesty class.

Lord · 05-07-2005, 10:52 PM

Your priest can't learn sun spells. If you're not soloing, make one of your fighters become a samurai so that you can keep your fighting skills while gaining sun spells at the same time.

Bungleau · 05-07-2005, 11:11 PM

Yep. The only classes who can learn sun magic are wizards, samurai, ~~warlocks,~~ and zenmasters. You've got to become one of those to start learning it. Your priest can only learn spirit and vine... nothing else.

*edit* And to correct, the only "new" schools warlocks can learn are moon and fiend. Anything else, they need to have known first...

[ 05-09-2005, 09:58 PM: Message edited by: Bungleau ]

jsalsb · 05-08-2005, 09:15 AM

... and I *think* warlocks only get sun if they came through wizard. If they started as priests I think they don't, they just add moon and fiend to their priest realms of spirit and vine. But I could be wrong wrong wrong! maybe they do get it all!

Lord · 05-08-2005, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jsalsb:
... and I *think* warlocks only get sun if they came through wizard. If they started as priests I think they don't, they just add moon and fiend to their priest realms of spirit and vine. But I could be wrong wrong wrong! maybe they do get it all!

No. Warlocks use Sun and Stone IIRC, so they'll get it anyway.

bsftcs · 05-08-2005, 06:24 PM

Actually all spell realms are indigenous to the warlock. Upon becoming a warlock only the moon and the fiend spell realms will open themselves to the warlock with one spell each (and usually the warlock will have been a wizard first with the sun and stone realms already open). But all realms are indigenous, so the warlock can learn up to level 7 spells in all realms without being at the double level in the requested realm.

Bungleau · 05-09-2005, 12:29 AM

Ah... but I think the question is whether your warlock priest can learn sun and stone now. I don't remember... so if someone wants to test it out, they can prove me either right or wrong

Radek · 05-09-2005, 03:26 AM

Warlocks. Even if all magic schools are "natural" for warlocks, a warlock gets only Moon and Fiend schools when he becomes a warlock. If the new warlock does not know Fire magic when he becomes a warlock then he won't have Fire magic as a warlock, nobody will teach him Fire magic, and there is no way for him to get the magic.
On the other hand, a zenmaster really gets all magic schools when he becomes a zenmaster.

vbartuccio · 05-09-2005, 05:26 PM

a solo priest could still be samurai though,
priest-->paladin (guild hop possible)-->samurai
(in case you want sun spells in a solo priest without having to do another low hit point spellcaster role)

05-07-2005, 09:18 PM	#2
jsalsb Elminster Join Date: March 5, 2001 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Age: 57 Posts: 428	Hi there! If you want to do without a wizard, you'll need to train up one of your characters as a samurai to get sun spells. Or collect the four tomes and become a zenmaster... they get everything! Of course, you can always have a priest switch to wizard (through warlock...), train up in sun magic as high as you want, then switch back to a more priesty class. __________________ Jon<br />---<br /> [img]\"http://www.ksdpp.mcgill.ca/js/jon-avatar-me-iw-tr.gif\" alt=\" - \" /><br />\"When the world is running down, you make the best of what\'s still around.\"

05-07-2005, 10:52 PM	#3
Lord Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: June 3, 2003 Location: New York Age: 39 Posts: 3,302	Your priest can't learn sun spells. If you're not soloing, make one of your fighters become a samurai so that you can keep your fighting skills while gaining sun spells at the same time. __________________ "You're a thief and a liar." "No, I only lied about being a thief."

05-07-2005, 11:11 PM	#4
Bungleau 40th Level Warrior Join Date: October 29, 2001 Location: Western Wilds of Michigan Posts: 11,752	Yep. The only classes who can learn sun magic are wizards, samurai, ~~warlocks,~~ and zenmasters. You've got to become one of those to start learning it. Your priest can only learn spirit and vine... nothing else. edit And to correct, the only "new" schools warlocks can learn are moon and fiend. Anything else, they need to have known first... [ 05-09-2005, 09:58 PM: Message edited by: Bungleau ] __________________ B Save Early, Save Often Save Before, Save After Two-Star General, Spelling Soldiers -+-+-+ Give 'em a hug one more time. It might be the last.

05-08-2005, 09:15 AM	#5
jsalsb Elminster Join Date: March 5, 2001 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Age: 57 Posts: 428	... and I think warlocks only get sun if they came through wizard. If they started as priests I think they don't, they just add moon and fiend to their priest realms of spirit and vine. But I could be wrong wrong wrong! maybe they do get it all! __________________ Jon<br />---<br /> [img]\"http://www.ksdpp.mcgill.ca/js/jon-avatar-me-iw-tr.gif\" alt=\" - \" /><br />\"When the world is running down, you make the best of what\'s still around.\"

05-08-2005, 06:24 PM	#7
bsftcs Red Dragon Join Date: January 23, 2003 Location: Denmark Age: 45 Posts: 1,577	Actually all spell realms are indigenous to the warlock. Upon becoming a warlock only the moon and the fiend spell realms will open themselves to the warlock with one spell each (and usually the warlock will have been a wizard first with the sun and stone realms already open). But all realms are indigenous, so the warlock can learn up to level 7 spells in all realms without being at the double level in the requested realm. __________________ Moderation is good so long as it is not exaggerated!

05-07-2005, 09:02 PM	#1
Eagle eye Elminster Join Date: May 13, 2004 Location: New Zealand Age: 33 Posts: 409	Is it possible to get my priest to learn fire spells? How? I am trying to go by without having a wizard...

05-09-2005, 12:29 AM	#8
Bungleau 40th Level Warrior Join Date: October 29, 2001 Location: Western Wilds of Michigan Posts: 11,752	Ah... but I think the question is whether your warlock priest can learn sun and stone now. I don't remember... so if someone wants to test it out, they can prove me either right or wrong __________________ B Save Early, Save Often Save Before, Save After Two-Star General, Spelling Soldiers -+-+-+ Give 'em a hug one more time. It might be the last.

05-09-2005, 03:26 AM	#9
Radek Red Dragon Join Date: April 3, 2001 Location: Prague, Czech Republic Posts: 1,586	Warlocks. Even if all magic schools are "natural" for warlocks, a warlock gets only Moon and Fiend schools when he becomes a warlock. If the new warlock does not know Fire magic when he becomes a warlock then he won't have Fire magic as a warlock, nobody will teach him Fire magic, and there is no way for him to get the magic. On the other hand, a zenmaster really gets all magic schools when he becomes a zenmaster. __________________ My name is Demon\'s Last Day. Yes, the last one.

05-09-2005, 05:26 PM	#10
vbartuccio Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: April 25, 2005 Location: Brook Park, OH, United States, Earth, Milky Way Galaxy, 4th dimension Age: 40 Posts: 20	a solo priest could still be samurai though, priest-->paladin (guild hop possible)-->samurai (in case you want sun spells in a solo priest without having to do another low hit point spellcaster role) __________________ \"Turn left at the fork in the road. In Soviet Russia: road forks you!!!\" -Talking car from \"Family Guy\"

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