Some Trouble

[Gangrell]

Hey guys, I'm from the SoA forum, but I just got ToB today and i'm stuck on something. I'm at the part where the spirit says if I get her and the fire giants heart, she'll remove his invulnerability, well, I found his heart, but what I can't find is HER heart. Where is it?

Oh yea, and one more thing. There's little kool imp dude in my pocket plane that says he can improve shiny objects. Was wonderin if you all could tell me what some of them were so I don't pass them up, if I haven't already.

Peace

[Dundee Slaytern]

The hearts are found in two locations.

One is on a firepit. This is the one you got. The other one is in his bed. Left of the slave woman.

[Imrahil]

*SPOILERS* (but then again, I think that's what you want [img]smile.gif[/img] )
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"Her heart" (Nyalee's, btw) is in the same area/dungeon as Yaga-Shura's heart, only farther north. From the point where you got Y-S's heart (at the north end from where you fought Brennan & his buddies), you need to open the big doors in the NE/NW (though I'd suggest NE) of the lair. You may need one of the Potions of Fire Giant Str laying about the room to do so (if you get the message about needing to be stronger to open the door). The doors are big, but pretty obvious once you see them on the map (like I said, head to the far NE corner & you can't miss them... can't resist... further... spoil... Detect Traps when you head up there).

After you open the door, you will encounter a slave to Yaga-Shura (if you've gone NE, like I said). Play it out or ask for different spoilers on that... [img]smile.gif[/img]

When you get to the middle of the new area (i.e. open the big door, head N a bit, talk to the slave, then W til you're in the middle), there is a big (trapped) circle (hold down ALT if you need to) in the middle of the dais you should be standing on. Inside is Nyalee's heart, which is the crucial quest object.

- Imrahil

[Imrahil]

heh - that's funny - this is the 2nd time tonight someone else has posted a quick Spoiler while I was typing out a very detailed Spoiler. Funny, yes, but also gave me a semi-legitimate reason to get my 50th post. [img]smile.gif[/img]

- Imrahil

[Gangrell]

Ohh yea, I just forgot to open the door... (God, I feel dumb)
Oh yea, any ideas on the weapons guys?

[Bardan the Slayer]

I lifted this directly from a walkthrough by Dan Simpson, email : manymoose@hotmail.com

http://db.gamefaqs.com/computer/dosw...rs_gate_ii.txt

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Note: Unless I say otherwise, assume the item costs 5,000 gold to make.

Also, several items (such as the String of Gond) are used in the
making of several items. This means you must choose which item
you want to upgrade, because once you upgrade one thing, you can't
do the other.

Most of these are found in the Watcher's Keep, unless otherwise
noted.

Case of Plenty +2 -- Case of Plenty

Heartwood Ring -- Oaken Ring (Amkethran)
Nymph's Tear (Forest of Mir)

Thieves Hood (better) -- Thieves Hood
Ring of Invisibility
Antidote Potion
10,000 gold

Helm of the Rock -- Helm of the Rock
(better) Horn (left)
Horn (right)

Montolio's Cloak -- Montolio's Clasp
Montolio's Cloak (Amkethran)

Wondrous Gloves -- Bard's Gloves
Star Sapphire
Diamond
Emerald
Rogue Stone

Blessed Bracers -- Paladin's Bracers
10,000 gold

Circlet of Netheril -- Bronze Ioun Stone (Vampire Nest, Saradush)
Circlet of Netheril

Golem Manual -- Golem Manual
Clay Golem Page
& 5,000 gold
Stone Golem Page (Marching Mountains)
& 10,000 gold
Juggernaut Golem Page (Abazigal's Lair)
& 15,000 gold

Improved Cloak of Protection +2 -- Cloak of Protection +2
Scroll: Invisibility
Scroll: Improved Haste
20,000 gold

White Dragon Scale -- White Dragon Scales

Blue Dragon Plate -- Blue Dragon Scales (Abazigal)

Aslyerferund Elven Chain +5 -- Bladesinger Chain +4 (Dragon in Suldanesselar)
Scroll: Protection from Normal Weapons
40,000 gold

Bag of Plenty +2 -- Bag of Plenty (Marching Mountains)
King's Tears
10,000 gold

Erinne Sling +5 -- Erinne Sling +4

Fire Tooth +5 -- Fire Tooth +4
Bowstring of Gond (Sendai's Lair)

Quiver of Plenty +2 -- Quiver of Plenty
Rogue Stone
10,000 gold

Darkfire Bow +5 -- Bowstring of Gond (Sendai's Lair)
Darkfire Bow (Capt. Erelon, Amkethran)

Taralash +5 -- Bowstring of Gond (Sendai's Lair)
Taralash +4

Runehammer +5 -- Runehammer +4 (Siege Camp)
Rune of Clangeddin (Sendai's Forest)

Flail of Ages +4 -- Flail of Ages +3
Flail Head (Poison)

Flail of Ages +5 -- Flail of Ages +4
Flail Head (Electric) (Abazigal)

Storm Star +5 -- Storm Star +3
Starfall Ore (found in Kiser's House, Saradush)

Club of Detonation +5 -- Club of Detonation +3
Ring of Fire Resistance

Hindo's Doom +4 -- Hindo's Doom +3
Hindo's Hand (Abazigal's Lair)

Spectral Brand +5 -- Spectral Brand +4
Skull of the Lich (Sendai's Lair)

Ravager +6 -- Ravager +4 (Yaga Shura's Lair)
Serpent Shaft

Staff of the Ram +6 -- Staff of the Ram +4 (Watcher's, Dragon)
Roranach's Horn

Axe of the Unyielding +5 -- Baalor's Claw (Marching Mountain)
Axe of the Unyielding +3

Ixil's Spike +6 -- Ixil's Spike
Ixil's Nail +4

Dagger of the Star +5 -- Dagger of the Star +4 (Watcher's, Demi-Lich)
Star Sapphire (5)

Carsomyr +6 -- Carsomyr +5 (Firkraag)
Eye of Tyr (Sendai's Lair)

Gram (improved) -- Gram the Sword of Grief +5 (Abazigal's Lair)
Heart of the Damned (Sendai's Lair)

Purifier +5 -- Purifier +4
Eye of Tyr (Sendai's Lair)

Foebane +5 -- Foebane +3
Fflar's Scabbard (Saradush Sewer)

Angurvadal +5 -- Angurvadal +4
Liquid Mercury (Sendai's Lair)
10,000 gold

Sword of Mask +5 -- Short Sword of Mask +4
Heart of the Damned (Sendai's Lair)

[ 01-04-2003, 12:44 PM: Message edited by: Bardan the Slayer ]

[Gangrell]

Thanks Bardan, I owe ya.

[Bardan the Slayer]

No problem m8. Credit should go to DSimpson anyway [img]smile.gif[/img]

[The Ozzman]

A few tips Gangrell all the weapons and other things you see on the list that dont list location are assumed to be in Wacther's Keep. Also there are quite a few items that are a total waste of money. Bags and Quivers of Plenty for starters. Obviously if you don't have a Bard there is no reason to create the Bard's Gloves, If you don't have a paladin you don't need the Paladin Bracers. If you don't have a Ranger you can't use the Cloak of Montiolo. I mention this because my 1st time through, gold became a problem for me. It's important to have some of those 9th level spells and they are pricey.

[andrewas]

Originally posted by The Ozzman: Also there are quite a few items that are a total waste of money. Bags and Quivers of Plenty for starters.

On the contrary, these items can be incredibly useful. Infinite +2 ammo of the relevant type when upgraded. Buying +2 ammo will add up to way more that what these cost, and you can only find so much of it. Any character who uses a missile weapon semi-regularly will profit from this, and it cuts down on ammo management. Just keep some +3 or +4 ammo around for stuff thats +2 immune.