Where are the decent RPGs?

Mr. Mopery · 02-21-2005, 05:52 PM

Is it me or is there a drought of good RPGs?

Vampire the Masquerade was good but the bugs were too annoying to play through twice. KOTOR II looks good. But what else is there?

I should point out that I can't play MMORPGs right now, or I'd probably try Warcraft.

Are role-playing games experiencing/heading for another crap period? It's funny because when Bioware was working on the Neverwinter Nights XPs they constantly posted that "the industry is moving away from longer games, toward shorter games with more 're-playability'". But I don't think I've replayed any games so damned much as BGII and Torment.

Sigh.

Sir Degrader · 02-21-2005, 05:54 PM

KOTOR 2 wasn't really all that good. The good ones are now in the past. Try Arcanum, the original KOTOR, or try console RPGs, which, if you are like me, really aren't RPG's, more of action/adventure games.

Albromor · 02-22-2005, 12:32 AM

As with anything, RPGs will go in cycles. Right now there isn't a lot of good available RPGs though companies like BioWare are working on a few new ones. IMO, NWN is the best option out there because 1) there are some tremendous community created modules and 2) it really shines in online play.

Riftmaker · 02-22-2005, 01:59 PM

Shorter games are just retarded. Eventually you just get tired of the whole engine in and of itself that you want to kill it.

My suggestion is to go play IWD II.

Mr. Mopery · 02-22-2005, 02:09 PM

IWDII was alright. My girlfriend went nuts on it and she usually likes stuff like the Sims.

NWN was ok too, but the engine kind of annoyed me. Played some of the modules but not too many.

In general I'm just afraid we've had our Renaissance and are moving into the plastic age. Or maybe I'm just getting old...

bsftcs · 02-22-2005, 07:49 PM

If you have not played it before I suggest you go retro and play Wizards and Warriors. I have played it many times and despite its age it is still a great game. You could go and check the W&W Forum here at Ironworks where I usually hang out.

Dundee Slaytern · 02-22-2005, 09:49 PM

Sacred.

Riftmaker · 02-23-2005, 12:30 PM

Sacred is more of a strategy than RP game.

If you haven't played any of the Wizardry series, you must go. Now.

Luvian · 02-23-2005, 12:45 PM

Kotor 2 was nice. You can see they cut almost 50% of the game out, anf if they had implemented everything we might still be venerating it in 10 years, but what did get in the game is nice enough, if not perfect.

Personally, I think I liked the story of Kotor 2 as much as that of the first one, if not more.

If they fix the influence system so that your npcs behave like they should depending on their aligment I'll be very happy.

02-21-2005, 05:52 PM	#1
Mr. Mopery Zhentarim Guard Join Date: December 13, 2001 Location: Warsaw Age: 48 Posts: 328	Is it me or is there a drought of good RPGs? Vampire the Masquerade was good but the bugs were too annoying to play through twice. KOTOR II looks good. But what else is there? I should point out that I can't play MMORPGs right now, or I'd probably try Warcraft. Are role-playing games experiencing/heading for another crap period? It's funny because when Bioware was working on the Neverwinter Nights XPs they constantly posted that "the industry is moving away from longer games, toward shorter games with more 're-playability'". But I don't think I've replayed any games so damned much as BGII and Torment. Sigh. __________________ Never argue with a woman who\'s holding your schmeckle...

02-22-2005, 01:59 PM	#4
Riftmaker Elminster Join Date: August 30, 2004 Location: Canada Age: 39 Posts: 463	Shorter games are just retarded. Eventually you just get tired of the whole engine in and of itself that you want to kill it. My suggestion is to go play IWD II. __________________ a.k.a. Lord`Rift<br />Founder, Anti-Idgit Squad.<br />\"I find your lack of geek knowledge disturbing\"

02-22-2005, 02:09 PM	#5
Mr. Mopery Zhentarim Guard Join Date: December 13, 2001 Location: Warsaw Age: 48 Posts: 328	IWDII was alright. My girlfriend went nuts on it and she usually likes stuff like the Sims. NWN was ok too, but the engine kind of annoyed me. Played some of the modules but not too many. In general I'm just afraid we've had our Renaissance and are moving into the plastic age. Or maybe I'm just getting old... __________________ Never argue with a woman who\'s holding your schmeckle...

02-22-2005, 07:49 PM	#6
bsftcs Red Dragon Join Date: January 23, 2003 Location: Denmark Age: 45 Posts: 1,577	If you have not played it before I suggest you go retro and play Wizards and Warriors. I have played it many times and despite its age it is still a great game. You could go and check the W&W Forum here at Ironworks where I usually hang out. __________________ Moderation is good so long as it is not exaggerated!

02-23-2005, 12:30 PM	#8
Riftmaker Elminster Join Date: August 30, 2004 Location: Canada Age: 39 Posts: 463	Sacred is more of a strategy than RP game. If you haven't played any of the Wizardry series, you must go. Now. __________________ a.k.a. Lord`Rift<br />Founder, Anti-Idgit Squad.<br />\"I find your lack of geek knowledge disturbing\"

02-21-2005, 05:54 PM	#2
Sir Degrader Thoth - Egyptian God of Wisdom Join Date: November 3, 2001 Location: Canada Age: 63 Posts: 2,871	KOTOR 2 wasn't really all that good. The good ones are now in the past. Try Arcanum, the original KOTOR, or try console RPGs, which, if you are like me, really aren't RPG's, more of action/adventure games.

02-22-2005, 12:32 AM	#3
Albromor Mephistopheles Join Date: June 13, 2001 Location: Northfield, NJ USA Posts: 1,417	As with anything, RPGs will go in cycles. Right now there isn't a lot of good available RPGs though companies like BioWare are working on a few new ones. IMO, NWN is the best option out there because 1) there are some tremendous community created modules and 2) it really shines in online play.

02-22-2005, 09:49 PM	#7
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 41 Posts: 11,063	Sacred.

02-23-2005, 12:45 PM	#9
Luvian Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 27, 2001 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Age: 43 Posts: 6,763	Kotor 2 was nice. You can see they cut almost 50% of the game out, anf if they had implemented everything we might still be venerating it in 10 years, but what did get in the game is nice enough, if not perfect. Personally, I think I liked the story of Kotor 2 as much as that of the first one, if not more. If they fix the influence system so that your npcs behave like they should depending on their aligment I'll be very happy. __________________ Once upon a time in Canada...

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