09-07-2003, 02:55 PM | #1 |
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ok, this is really pissing me off, my husband went to court about a week and a half ago over the theft charges, and the DA had no evidence, nothing to prove that he did it, or even that the money was really missing, in other words, no bank statements, no video tape, no deposit slip, no testimony, nothing. but the judge said that he just did not belive my husband was telling the truth, and there for charged him with a class C felony, is it just me, or is that like totally wrong?
my husbands-bosses-wife went and testiied on his behalf, but the judge dismissed her testimony, how is it possible that if there is no evidence, that he was convicted? do they not have to prove that there was an actual thet before he can even be charged in the first place? anyway, I am still mad about it, and would like some thoughts on this, so eel ree to vent your oppinion of the american judical system [ 09-07-2003, 02:57 PM: Message edited by: Stormymystic ]
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09-07-2003, 03:02 PM | #2 |
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That is really sucky. Like, REALLY sucky. As for what I think about the country's judicial system, it definately needs some work. It seems to me that anyone with actual money can get out of going to jury duty, so that tends to leave those who are of the lower class stuck there. Also, we have way too many liberal judges here in the country. Yeah, I know it's a well-known fact I don't have too much love for liberals, but I am not just saying it to say this. We have far too many judges that will even accept ludicroius cases, such as ones where a felon breaks into a home and injurs themself because, say, there was a knife left uncovered on a table, let alone judges that will go in favor of the real criminal.
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09-07-2003, 03:03 PM | #3 |
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Well, putting aside this case (which I can not say that much about, because I know too little about it), I think the American judicial system just sucks big time. I mean: people in America are sueing each other for throwing a peanut at each other (just an example )!?! That's outrageous!
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09-07-2003, 03:11 PM | #4 |
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Oh, Stormy, this must be so upsetting for you, I can't imagine. I am just a little confused if you wouldn't mind clearing up a few things. I understand that your husband is charged with a Class C felony now. I understood that I think, but what I didn't understand is has he been actually CONVICTED of this class C felony? I apologize for not having this straight.
I don't know anything about this, but I think I have heard that sometimes people are convicted on the basis of "circumstantial evidence." Maybe that is what the DA has and what the judge is looking at. My understanding is that "circumstantial evidence" is not what I think most people think of as being hard evidence. But I may be wrong on this because I am not an attorney and don't really know. Just my thoughts.
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09-07-2003, 03:16 PM | #6 |
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no offence, it doesnt suprise me, the judgge has so much power that it doesnt matter if there was no evedince, stupid judges
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09-07-2003, 04:11 PM | #7 |
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That's an abuse of power from the judge Stormy. He can point fingers at your husband all he wants but unless he has some kind of evidence that points towards him, he can't convict him of anything. Think about it.
You said there were four other people who could have taken that money right? Now money is checked at the end of every week in a store, so it could have been any of those people, it's only coincidence and bad timing that your husband was working at the time when the manager found the money missing, that's it. That's not enough to convict him on anything, that's only the "my word against yours" arguement. I would honestly get the case taken to a different court house with a sensible judge in it, and so I hope everything works out for him Stormy. |
09-07-2003, 04:19 PM | #8 |
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Yep, let's face it, for all our "freedom", our government is just as corrupt as many of those we oppose.
P.S. (off topic I know but...) Umm Stormy is you "f" key working selectively or are you just typing fast and not always pressing it down far enough to make the connection?
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09-07-2003, 04:28 PM | #9 |
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The F key on her keyboard doesn't work very well Firestorm.
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09-07-2003, 04:39 PM | #10 |
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I am a little lost here. So was he actually convicted? Can you appeal? He does have an attorny doesn't he? Gangrell, I don't think you can just take a case like this to another court. I mean, I believe there are jurisdictional things in legal matters. But I may be wrong.
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