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Old 09-16-2002, 02:48 AM   #11
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Okay, I tried doing the two things. I'll post my results, please tell me if they're right or wrong, for (X-1):

X^3-5X^2+5X+9+(-10/(X-1))

And for (X+1):

X^3+3X^2-3X-7+(6/(X+1))

It's horribly wrong, isn't it?
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Old 09-16-2002, 03:12 AM   #12
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x^4+4x^3-4x-1=(x+1)(x^3+3x^2-3x-1)=(x-1)(x^3+5x^2+5x+1)

That help at all ?? [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 09-16-2002, 03:14 AM   #13
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Blech, I miscalculated something? Damn, I should have known.... *sigh* Guess this homework isn't getting handed in today. I need more time to work on it.... *slams face into nearest hard surface*
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Old 09-16-2002, 03:25 AM   #14
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Originally posted by Neb:
Okay, I tried doing the two things. I'll post my results, please tell me if they're right or wrong, for (X-1):

X^3-5X^2+5X+9+(-10/(X-1))

And for (X+1):

X^3+3X^2-3X-7+(6/(X+1))

It's horribly wrong, isn't it?
Very close. Neither div has a remainder. You forgot the 0x^2 term in both cases.

you need to div your term {(x-1)|(x+1)} into:
x^4+4x^3+0x^2-4x-1

Whenever doing polynomial div and there is a missing term (x^2 in this case) you need to add a 0 filler. Start from the highest exp and count down left to right, there should be no break in numbers. ex: x^5 + x^3 + 1 needs to be rewritten as x^5+0x^4+x^3+0x^2+0x+1

Keep going you almost have it!!!

You also have a sign error in your x-1 div.
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Old 09-16-2002, 10:15 AM   #15
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Thanks Stalker [img]smile.gif[/img] I always make mistakes with those bloody signs....
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Old 09-16-2002, 10:54 AM   #16
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So if u havn't understood already (can't tell):

-Factor those ugly suckers into understandable components.
-Border Values? pleaz clarify.
-Asymptotes are simply values that are nhon-permissible, usually to reciprocal functions. Like f(x)=1/(x+1) where x=-1 is an asymptote line.

Dig?
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Old 09-16-2002, 11:02 AM   #17
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I know what Asymptotes are, but what I have some problems with are doing things with them [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 09-16-2002, 11:37 AM   #18
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Blast, I can't get either of the two equations to end without a remainder. Could someone possible show me how they'd calculate them? I'm having a bit of trouble with this though I suspect that it's just my own stupidity.
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Old 09-16-2002, 11:44 AM   #19
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Okay, I need a bit of help with some homework. Maths homework to be precise. What I need help with is:

Polynomic Division
Border Values
and Asymptotes

My first problem is with PD.

(X^4+4X^3-4X-1)/(X-1) and (X^4+4X^3-4X-1)/(X+1) What effect will the difference between dividing with (X-1) and (X+1) have?
Is the answer 'red'?
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Old 09-16-2002, 12:39 PM   #20
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Blast, I can't get either of the two equations to end without a remainder. Could someone possible show me how they'd calculate them? I'm having a bit of trouble with this though I suspect that it's just my own stupidity.
My answer to the first one.
           
x^3 + 5x^2 + 5x + 1
-----------------------------------
x-1 | x^4 + 4x^3 + 0x^2 - 4x - 1
--------------
x^4 + x^3
0 + 5x^3 + 0x^2 - 4x - 1
5x^3 - 5x^2
-------------
0 + 5x^2 - 4x - 1
5x^2 - 5x
-----------
0 + x - 1
x - 1
--------
0 + 0




That should be right for the first one. For the second one your on your own though. I mean it. The notation is as taught to me in school a long time ago. Different teachers have different layouts, but you should be able to de-tangle it.

Edit - I was also gonna say - be careful of the signs. -4 - (-5) =1. Subtracting a negative = adding.

[ 09-16-2002, 12:44 PM: Message edited by: andrewas ]
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