Anyone else get sent this? Thoughts?

[Yorick]

In a message dated 10/18/01 1:30:42 PM, yourmiconn1 writes:

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<< > THIS SAYS IT ALL!!!!!
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> Broken Arrow, Oklahoma School officials remove "God
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> Bless America" signs from schools in fear that someone
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> might be offended.
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> Channel 12 News in Long Island, New York, orders flags
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> removed from the newsroom and red, white, and blue ribbons
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> removed from the lapels of reporters. Why? Management did
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> not want to appear biased and felt that our nations flag
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> might give the appearance that "they lean one way or another".
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> Berkeley, California bans U.S. Flags from being displayed on
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> city fire trucks because they didn't want to offend anyone
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> in the community.
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> In an "act of tolerance" the head of the public library at
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> Florida Gulf Coast University ordered all "Proud to be an
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> American" signs removed so as to not offend international
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> students.
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> I, for one, am quite disturbed by these actions of so-called
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> American citizens; and I am tired of this nation worrying
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> about whether or not we are offending some individual or
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> their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on September 11,
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> we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of
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> Americans. However, the dust from the attacks had barely
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> settled in New York and Washington D.C. when the "politically
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> correct" crowd began complaining about the possibility that
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> our patriotism was offending others.
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> I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against
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> anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to America. In
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> fact, our country's population is almost entirely comprised of
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> descendants of immigrants; however, there are a few things that
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> those who have recently come to our country, and apparently
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> some native Americans, need to understand.
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> First of all, it is not our responsibility to continually try
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> not to offend you in any way. This idea of America being a
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> multi-cultural community has served only to dilute our
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> sovereignty and our national identity. As Americans, we have
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> our own culture, our own society, our own language, and our
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> own lifestyle. This culture, called the "American Way" has been
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> developed over centuries of struggles, trials, and victories by
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> millions of men and women who have sought freedom. Our
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> forefathers fought, bled, and died at places such as Bunker
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> Hill, Antietam, San Juan, Iwo Jima, Normandy, Korea, Vietnam,
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> We speak English, not Spanish, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese,
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> Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to
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> become part of our society - learn our language!
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> "In God We Trust" is our national motto. This is not some
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> off-the-wall, Christian, Right Wing, political slogan - it
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> is our national motto. It is engraved in stone in the House
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> of Representatives in our Capitol and it is printed on our
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> currency. We adopted this motto because Christian men and
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> women, on Christian principles, founded this nation; and
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> this is clearly documented throughout our history. If it is
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> appropriate for our motto to be inscribed in the halls of our
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> highest level of Government, then it is certainly appropriate
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> to display it on the walls of our schools.
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> God is in our pledge, our National Anthem, nearly every
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> patriotic song, and in our founding documents. We honor His
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> birth, death, and resurrection as holidays, and we turn to
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> Him in prayer in times of crisis. If God offends you, then
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> I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new
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> home, because God is part of our culture and we are proud
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> to have Him.
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> We are proud of our heritage and those who have so honorably
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> defended our freedoms. We celebrate Independence Day,
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> Memorial Day, Veterans Day, and Flag Day. We have parades,
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> picnics, and barbecues where we proudly wave our flag. As
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> an American, I have the right to wave my flag, sing my national
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> anthem, quote my national motto, and cite my pledge whenever
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> and wherever I choose. If the Stars and Stripes offend you, or
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> you don't like Uncle Sam, then you should seriously consider a
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> move to another part of this planet.
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> The American culture is our way of life, our heritage, and we
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> are proud of it. We are happy with our culture and have no
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> desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things
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> where you came from. We are Americans, like it or not, this
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> is our country, our land, and our lifestyle.
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> Our First Amendment gives every citizen the right to express
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> his opinion about our government, culture, or society, and we
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> will allow you every opportunity to do so. But once you are
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> done complaining, whining, and griping about our flag, our
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> pledge, our national motto, or our way of life, I highly
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> encourage you take advantage of one other great American
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> freedom, the right to leave.
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> Barry Loudermilk
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> If you agree, pass this onto other Americans!!


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[Nachtrafe]

Originally posted by Yorick: In a message dated 10/18/01 1:30:42 PM, yourmiconn1 writes: << << > THIS SAYS IT ALL!!!!! > > Barry Loudermilk > > If you agree, pass this onto other Americans!!

*Applauds heartily!!!* Kudos for Barry, whomever/wherever he is!
Hey Yorick, could you send me a copy of this email? nachtrafe@hotmail.com

Ummm...I guess I should ask though...what's your opinion? From the perspective of being a non-American in the US.


EDIT: Was going to quote it, but the thing is WAY too long.
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"In Memorium of those who are gone, and all those that bought our freedom with their hearts blood!"

"May the Colors of Liberty never run"


[This message has been edited by Nachtrafe (edited 10-19-2001).]

[Prime2U]

Never seen a truer post. We're so worried about pleasing every single person we've forgotten who we are as a nation. I suppose the next thing we'll here is that if we want to post the american flag we must have equal space to post a terrorist banner so that we won't offend any terrorists. Ugh. It makes me sick just thinking about it. Sometimes it makes ME want to find another place on the planet, and I'm sure I'm not the only American who can trace his roots here way back that feels that way.

Prime

[Neb]

I am not an american, but I would seriously get pissed if anything like this was done in Denmark, we're a mainly christian country too and we shouldn't change that just because someone who isn't has decided to come and live with us, it's THEIR job to integrate themselves into the society of the country that they have moved to, not OUR job to change our country to fit their wants and needs.

[Nachtrafe]

Originally posted by Neb: I am not an american, but I would seriously get pissed if anything like this was done in Denmark, we're a mainly christian country too and we shouldn't change that just because someone who isn't has decided to come and live with us, it's THEIR job to integrate themselves into the society of the country that they have moved to, not OUR job to change our country to fit their wants and needs.

Go Neb!! Couldn't have said it better myself! Now, if we could just get some of the 'pundits' in THIS country to listen.

And Prime2U...No matter how frustrated you get, remember...there's nowhere you can go that's better than here. Sure, we have our problems, as evinced in the article above, but I'd rather be here than anywhere else.

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"In Memorium of those who are gone, and all those that bought our freedom with their hearts blood!"

"May the Colors of Liberty never run"

[Prime2U]

Originally posted by Nachtrafe: Go Neb!! Couldn't have said it better myself! Now, if we could just get some of the 'pundits' in THIS country to listen. And Prime2U...No matter how frustrated you get, remember...there's nowhere you can go that's better than here. Sure, we have our problems, as evinced in the article above, but I'd rather be here than anywhere else.

hehe yeah, me too, I just tend to mumble something about the nice clean forests of Canada every now and then when PCness pisses me off in this country (not like Canada isn't even worse about it)

Prime

Not display the US flag in schools, on fire trucks, libraries,etc.?!?!?!? What kind of bullshit is this!?!?!?

This is *our* country, *our* home!!!!!! Does this mean that in my house I should take down pictures which may depict a scene which might in some manner offend my visitors? I should hide away books or magazines which may in some way be contrary to their personal beliefs? I think *NOT*.

I am not Christian, but I have *absolutely* **no** problem with the "in God we trust" phrase or the religious misc. (holiday figures, pics, whatever). I was a proud member of the United States Navy and took an oath to protect this country and her people--under God. This is what makes us so 'great'--the fact that we are so many different peoples come together into a huge mixing bowl, resulting in the most sublimely wonderful blend!

There is a point beyond which these officials must stop worrying about whose ass they're going to kiss next and go about doing their jobs!

I'm going off this thread now before I implode with impotent fury!!!!!!

Garnet

(but thanks for posting it, Yorick)

[Ramon de Ramon y Ramon]

No, filth like this really is not worth that I comment it - other than that: this has nothing to do with defending anything, just with venting self-righteous anger, an invitation to hate and to nurturing resentments ... despicable !

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So long !

R³ aka "The Ramonster"(thanks Sir Tainly) - proud to be the official spokesman for the most noble Lady Bilqis, Desert Rose of Ironworks - equally proud to be Moiraine's "permanent advocate" !

Btw, the cow is queuing in the slaughterhouse right now !

[Ronn_Bman]

Originally posted by Yorick: In a message dated 10/18/01 1:30:42 PM, yourmiconn1 writes: << << > THIS SAYS IT ALL!!!!! >[edit]...................................... once you are > > done complaining, whining, and griping about our flag, our > > pledge, our national motto, or our way of life, I highly > > encourage you take advantage of one other great American > > freedom, the right to leave. > > > Barry Loudermilk > > If you agree, pass this onto other Americans!!

It's time we stopped worrying about who we make unhappy or offend. I don't mean to go out and intentionally cause problems, but to carry on our lifes worrying about US and not if someone will be offended.




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"The Martyr" (excerpt)

There is sobbing of the strong,
And a pall upon the land;
But the People in their weeping
Bare the iron hand:
Beware the People weeping
When they bare the iron hand.

--Herman Melville (written after the assasination of President Abraham Lincoln)

[250]

"the right of american"?
"free to leave"?

what kind attitude is this??? huh???

I am an international student, and I am damn proud for Americans, but I just hate the attitude of "If you dont like us, you can leave."

this is the most unproductive thing one can say. geez