Disney hurting children!!!

Sparhawk · 04-20-2004, 03:49 PM

A new case in Denmark....

Disney licensed a product from "find nemo" that was filled with damaging chemicals from the plastic material.
Now Disney wont acknowlegde resposobility and brushes off the comsumershows that complain.
Think of this...the product from "Find Nemo" a little turtle contained 27% of these chemicals and ONLY 0.05 % is allowed!!!

I foresee a lawsuit...in 20 years when babies are grown and find themselves incapable of having kids

Sir Taliesin · 04-20-2004, 04:48 PM

I think I know what chemical your talking about. Just can't think of it's name. If it's what I think it is, it's used to soften the plastic such toys are made of. Last I heard it's quite legal to use here in the US.

Sparhawk · 04-20-2004, 06:49 PM

Thats the on Yup...but according to danish and EU rules they´re not...and Disney is contractly bound to obey the soverign nations laws...the products have been removed from stores in Denmark now

I think the name was thalsat

Timber Loftis · 04-21-2004, 01:26 AM

Here's my issue re the international aspect of this thing. If something is dangerous, it's as dangerous to us as it is to Europeans. I'd like to know more about the product -- either it had not ought be illegal there or it ought be illegal everywhere (at least in the 1st World -- I admit the 3rd World may have developmental issues to catch up on).

I wish there was some international normalization of these rules. Sigh.... maybe in time, maybe by the end of my time, we'll see this.

Skunk · 04-21-2004, 04:49 AM

Here's the Greenpeace report on Disney's clothing products:
http://www.greenpeace.se/files/2500-2599/file_2554.pdf

General Nosaj · 04-21-2004, 04:02 PM

See what capitalisation does. Cutting the cost at the expense of peoples health.

WillowIX · 04-22-2004, 07:53 AM

AFAIK there is no proof that phtalates has caused harm to humans. It does not accumulate in the body and it degrades rapidly. This of course depends on with phtalate is being used and the level of exposure.

Timber, I couldn't agree more! EU might be stingy about their allowed levels of chemicals to be used. However, these levels more often prove to be right thatn wrong. Not and answer I know. I believe you can find the information if you do some digging, avoiding most of the US industrial funded sites that is.

Larry_OHF · 04-22-2004, 08:31 AM

I find it odd that they did not check the composition of the material being bought befoer buying it. I mean...if Disney lied on the paperwork and said it did not have the stuf in it, and it was found out oversees, then Disney cannot legally get out of that written lie that is quoted on paper...but if the buyers did not even ask in the first place, then U.S. laws are all they needed to sell the product. Right?

Timber Loftis · 04-22-2004, 09:40 AM

It would be determined by EU and the country's law, Larry, which I won't speculate on. However, if it were in the US, the original manufacturer would be on the hook. A retailer cannot be expected to inspect or test the composition of everything it buys for resale.

However, it some instances, they'd both be on the hook. Let's say a product contained a hazardous material listed by the EPA or OSHA. If the retailer discovered it could not sale the item and then just tossed them out, without treating them as special waste, it would have created its own, separate, problem.

Barry the Sprout · 04-22-2004, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Skunk:
Here's the Greenpeace report on Disney's clothing products:
http://www.greenpeace.se/files/2500-2599/file_2554.pdf

And here's No Sweat's report on the conditions they produce their clothes in:

http://www.nosweat.org.uk/sections.p...ticle&artid=49

They're one of the most ruthless exploiters of Sweatshop labour working today.

04-20-2004, 03:49 PM	#1
Sparhawk Quintesson Join Date: June 2, 2001 Location: In the oldest monarchy - Denmark Age: 46 Posts: 1,071	A new case in Denmark.... Disney licensed a product from "find nemo" that was filled with damaging chemicals from the plastic material. Now Disney wont acknowlegde resposobility and brushes off the comsumershows that complain. Think of this...the product from "Find Nemo" a little turtle contained 27% of these chemicals and ONLY 0.05 % is allowed!!! I foresee a lawsuit...in 20 years when babies are grown and find themselves incapable of having kids __________________ "Between the years when the oceans drank Atlantis and the rise of the sons of Arius. There was an age undreamed of, when shining kingdoms lay spread across the world. Hither came Conan, the cimmarian, sword in hand. It is I, his chronicler who knows well his saga. Now let me tell you of the days of high adventure!" "Unleash the Casey!" "Make no mistake, should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be looking at an outcome that will have a finality, that is beyound your comprehension. And you will not counting the days or the months or the years, but milleniums in a place with no doors!"

04-20-2004, 04:48 PM	#2
Sir Taliesin Silver Dragon Join Date: March 4, 2001 Location: Knoxville, TN USA Age: 60 Posts: 1,641	I think I know what chemical your talking about. Just can't think of it's name. If it's what I think it is, it's used to soften the plastic such toys are made of. Last I heard it's quite legal to use here in the US. __________________ Sir Taliesin<br /><br />Hello... Good bye.

04-20-2004, 06:49 PM	#3
Sparhawk Quintesson Join Date: June 2, 2001 Location: In the oldest monarchy - Denmark Age: 46 Posts: 1,071	Thats the on Yup...but according to danish and EU rules they´re not...and Disney is contractly bound to obey the soverign nations laws...the products have been removed from stores in Denmark now I think the name was thalsat __________________ "Between the years when the oceans drank Atlantis and the rise of the sons of Arius. There was an age undreamed of, when shining kingdoms lay spread across the world. Hither came Conan, the cimmarian, sword in hand. It is I, his chronicler who knows well his saga. Now let me tell you of the days of high adventure!" "Unleash the Casey!" "Make no mistake, should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be looking at an outcome that will have a finality, that is beyound your comprehension. And you will not counting the days or the months or the years, but milleniums in a place with no doors!"

04-21-2004, 01:26 AM	#4
Timber Loftis 40th Level Warrior Join Date: July 11, 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 11,916	Here's my issue re the international aspect of this thing. If something is dangerous, it's as dangerous to us as it is to Europeans. I'd like to know more about the product -- either it had not ought be illegal there or it ought be illegal everywhere (at least in the 1st World -- I admit the 3rd World may have developmental issues to catch up on). I wish there was some international normalization of these rules. Sigh.... maybe in time, maybe by the end of my time, we'll see this. __________________

04-21-2004, 04:02 PM	#6
General Nosaj Zhentarim Guard Join Date: January 17, 2004 Location: Scotland Age: 36 Posts: 300	See what capitalisation does. Cutting the cost at the expense of peoples health. __________________ \"There shall be no mercy for those who challenge my fight for conquest. Heed this warning!\"-General Nosaj

04-21-2004, 04:49 AM	#5
Skunk Banned User Join Date: September 3, 2001 Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands Age: 62 Posts: 1,463	Here's the Greenpeace report on Disney's clothing products: http://www.greenpeace.se/files/2500-2599/file_2554.pdf

04-22-2004, 07:53 AM	#7
WillowIX Apophis Join Date: July 10, 2001 Location: By a big blue lake, Canada Age: 50 Posts: 4,628	AFAIK there is no proof that phtalates has caused harm to humans. It does not accumulate in the body and it degrades rapidly. This of course depends on with phtalate is being used and the level of exposure. Timber, I couldn't agree more! EU might be stingy about their allowed levels of chemicals to be used. However, these levels more often prove to be right thatn wrong. Not and answer I know. I believe you can find the information if you do some digging, avoiding most of the US industrial funded sites that is. __________________ Confuzzled by nature.

04-22-2004, 08:31 AM	#8
Larry_OHF Ironworks Moderator Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Midlands, South Carolina Age: 48 Posts: 14,759	I find it odd that they did not check the composition of the material being bought befoer buying it. I mean...if Disney lied on the paperwork and said it did not have the stuf in it, and it was found out oversees, then Disney cannot legally get out of that written lie that is quoted on paper...but if the buyers did not even ask in the first place, then U.S. laws are all they needed to sell the product. Right?

04-22-2004, 09:40 AM	#9
Timber Loftis 40th Level Warrior Join Date: July 11, 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 11,916	It would be determined by EU and the country's law, Larry, which I won't speculate on. However, if it were in the US, the original manufacturer would be on the hook. A retailer cannot be expected to inspect or test the composition of everything it buys for resale. However, it some instances, they'd both be on the hook. Let's say a product contained a hazardous material listed by the EPA or OSHA. If the retailer discovered it could not sale the item and then just tossed them out, without treating them as special waste, it would have created its own, separate, problem. __________________

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