Effectiveness of torture in gaining information.

wanderon · 02-26-2006, 10:22 AM

A simple poll- here is the premise.

Since the dawn of time, since man first crawled out of the swamps he has from time to time over the centuries used torture on his fellow man in an attempt to gain information. No doubt there have been other reasons that torture has been used but in this instance we are only concerned with the use of torture to gain reliable information.

The poll "question" is actually a statement- the answers should reflect whether you see the statement as obvioulsy either true or false or impossible to judge as either.

Szass-Tam · 02-26-2006, 10:50 AM

Doesn't this strike you as a slightly odd question to ask?

wanderon · 02-26-2006, 11:00 AM

It does indeed - the truth is its from another discussion on another board and any further explaination may be contrued as an attempt on my part to skew the results...

I ask that people simply take the statement as worded and reply accordingly.

Sir Degrader · 02-26-2006, 11:11 AM

That's terrible wording. I say, the 3rd one.

Stratos · 02-26-2006, 12:14 PM

Yep, odd wording, but obviously some important information must have been aquired through torture at some point in the history of man. I can't tell how effective it is, though.

Besides, is there some background story to this question?

wanderon · 02-26-2006, 01:27 PM

There may be but to reveal it might skew the results - I'll give some more details after its up for a day or so...

machinehead · 02-26-2006, 01:47 PM

Is this it? http://www.tarna.us/viewtopic.php?t=80

johnny · 02-26-2006, 02:53 PM

Looks like our friend here's been a busy bee.

http://www.sorcerers.net/ubb/ultimat...ic/34/348.html

wanderon · 02-26-2006, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by machinehead:
Is this it? http://www.tarna.us/viewtopic.php?t=80

It is indeed...

wanderon · 02-26-2006, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnny:
Looks like our friend here's been a busy bee.

http://www.sorcerers.net/ubb/ultimat...ic/34/348.html

Here's the poop... the original discussion began at Tarnas where I took exception to the inference that the statement I have now listed in 3 seperate polls (Here, Tarnas and Sorcerors) MUST be considered as true absent any evidence posted to the contrary.

I maintain that its ridiculous on its face and needs no "evidence" to say so and any reasonable discussion on the topic of torture should begin by removing such blatant overstatements from the table. The fellow holding the view declined to do so and things mostly went down hill from there...

To any newcomers to this thread please read the statement and vote as you see it.

View Poll Results: Torture has NEVER been effective in gaining reliable information.
obviously true	10	35.71%
obviously false	5	17.86%
impossible to know	13	46.43%
Voters: 28. You may not vote on this poll

02-26-2006, 10:22 AM	#1
wanderon Dungeon Master Join Date: January 31, 2006 Location: Valley of the Sun Age: 75 Posts: 81	A simple poll- here is the premise. Since the dawn of time, since man first crawled out of the swamps he has from time to time over the centuries used torture on his fellow man in an attempt to gain information. No doubt there have been other reasons that torture has been used but in this instance we are only concerned with the use of torture to gain reliable information. The poll "question" is actually a statement- the answers should reflect whether you see the statement as obvioulsy either true or false or impossible to judge as either. __________________ Not all those that wander are lost...

02-26-2006, 10:50 AM	#2
Szass-Tam Zhentarim Guard Join Date: October 14, 2002 Location: London, England Age: 33 Posts: 328	Doesn't this strike you as a slightly odd question to ask? __________________ [img]\"http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/7922/biko86fu.jpg\" alt=\" - \" />

02-26-2006, 11:00 AM	#3
wanderon Dungeon Master Join Date: January 31, 2006 Location: Valley of the Sun Age: 75 Posts: 81	It does indeed - the truth is its from another discussion on another board and any further explaination may be contrued as an attempt on my part to skew the results... I ask that people simply take the statement as worded and reply accordingly. __________________ Not all those that wander are lost...

02-26-2006, 12:14 PM	#5
Stratos Vampire Join Date: January 29, 2003 Location: Sweden Age: 43 Posts: 3,888	Yep, odd wording, but obviously some important information must have been aquired through torture at some point in the history of man. I can't tell how effective it is, though. Besides, is there some background story to this question? __________________ Nothing is impossible, it's just a matter of probability.

02-26-2006, 11:11 AM	#4
Sir Degrader Thoth - Egyptian God of Wisdom Join Date: November 3, 2001 Location: Canada Age: 63 Posts: 2,871	That's terrible wording. I say, the 3rd one.

02-26-2006, 01:27 PM	#6
wanderon Dungeon Master Join Date: January 31, 2006 Location: Valley of the Sun Age: 75 Posts: 81	There may be but to reveal it might skew the results - I'll give some more details after its up for a day or so... __________________ Not all those that wander are lost...

02-26-2006, 01:47 PM	#7
machinehead Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: April 9, 2001 Location: Massachusetts Age: 68 Posts: 630	Is this it? http://www.tarna.us/viewtopic.php?t=80

02-26-2006, 02:53 PM	#8
johnny 40th Level Warrior Join Date: April 15, 2002 Location: Utrecht The Netherlands Age: 58 Posts: 16,981	Looks like our friend here's been a busy bee. http://www.sorcerers.net/ubb/ultimat...ic/34/348.html __________________

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