Kensai: attacks per round

Rockstar · 01-12-2006, 02:52 AM

hi everyone

A kensai gets a -1 to speed factor every for levels. What does this count for as far as grand mastery is concerned and when would this not be able to go any lower? until every weapon has a speed of 1? Is it possible to gain more ApR with this skill?

please help [img]smile.gif[/img]

timothy trotter · 01-12-2006, 04:07 AM

i think the most attacks per round you can get is 5, and speed factor relates to how far into the round your character initiates the atack

ister · 01-12-2006, 08:51 AM

For melee weapons you get 1 apr base.
You get 1/2 apr for having 2 stars in the weapon you are using.
All warriors (inclusing kensais) get 1/2 apr at level 7 and 1/2 apr at level 13.
If you dual wield you get 1 apr with the off-hand weapon.

That's a total of 3.5 apr. Improved haste will double this and give you 7 apr.

The only other way to get more apr without cheating is through the use of certain weapons (i.e., Belm and Kundane) that grant an extra apr. With these you can indeed get 4.5 apr, which will give you 9 apr when improved haste is applied. 9 apr is exactly what you would get from a whirlwind attack.

If you use the grand mastery patch that makes BG2 consistent with TSR rules you get an extra apr at 5 stars. However, this is NOT a bug fix, as the game designer clearly intended that there not be an extra apr at 5 stars. Whether it's cheating is a deep philosophical question. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Speed factor, as noted doesn't affect apr. It just means that you get more of your attacks in before your opponent gets his or her attacks in. I know it goes to zero, and I'm pretty sure it can go negative. Anyone know what a level 12 kensai with a +3 dagger gets as a speed factor?

AeonsLegend · 01-12-2006, 12:28 PM

I thought Whirlwind attack gives you 10 attacks per round.

01-12-2006, 04:07 AM	#2
timothy trotter Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: December 29, 2004 Location: south australia Age: 42 Posts: 603	i think the most attacks per round you can get is 5, and speed factor relates to how far into the round your character initiates the atack __________________ Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition!<br />You will stay in the comfy chair until lunchtime, with only a cup of coffee at 11!

01-12-2006, 08:51 AM	#3
ister Drow Warrior Join Date: January 12, 2005 Location: usa Age: 56 Posts: 291	For melee weapons you get 1 apr base. You get 1/2 apr for having 2 stars in the weapon you are using. All warriors (inclusing kensais) get 1/2 apr at level 7 and 1/2 apr at level 13. If you dual wield you get 1 apr with the off-hand weapon. That's a total of 3.5 apr. Improved haste will double this and give you 7 apr. The only other way to get more apr without cheating is through the use of certain weapons (i.e., Belm and Kundane) that grant an extra apr. With these you can indeed get 4.5 apr, which will give you 9 apr when improved haste is applied. 9 apr is exactly what you would get from a whirlwind attack. If you use the grand mastery patch that makes BG2 consistent with TSR rules you get an extra apr at 5 stars. However, this is NOT a bug fix, as the game designer clearly intended that there not be an extra apr at 5 stars. Whether it's cheating is a deep philosophical question. [img]smile.gif[/img] Speed factor, as noted doesn't affect apr. It just means that you get more of your attacks in before your opponent gets his or her attacks in. I know it goes to zero, and I'm pretty sure it can go negative. Anyone know what a level 12 kensai with a +3 dagger gets as a speed factor? __________________ \" Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.\"<br />JFK

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01-12-2006, 02:52 AM	#1
Rockstar Zhentarim Guard Join Date: January 4, 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 300	hi everyone A kensai gets a -1 to speed factor every for levels. What does this count for as far as grand mastery is concerned and when would this not be able to go any lower? until every weapon has a speed of 1? Is it possible to gain more ApR with this skill? please help [img]smile.gif[/img]

01-12-2006, 12:28 PM	#4
AeonsLegend Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: January 2, 2006 Location: Netherlands Age: 45 Posts: 37	I thought Whirlwind attack gives you 10 attacks per round.

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