powergamer question: Bane Cleric/Monk (spoilers)

krunchyfrogg · 11-25-2005, 07:57 PM

is it worth starting off a human monk build with just 1 level of cleric of bane for the later wisdom (and therefore armor class and stunning fist DC) +2 bonus?

edit: this is meant for party play.

[ 11-25-2005, 09:01 PM: Message edited by: krunchyfrogg ]

Aerich · 11-26-2005, 01:35 AM

Yes, if you have predetermined that your monk must be human. I'd still say that a DG pure monk is better, though. If you're willing to take an XP penalty, the DG monk with 1 level of dreadmaster would be even more effective.

Btw, a +2 to Wis only gives +1 to AC and stunning attacks (and later, quivering palm). To get a +2 to AC and the dc, you need +4 to Wis, which means HoF mode.

ZFR · 11-26-2005, 06:19 AM

but....

isn't it that soon as you take the the level of cleric you will not be able to take any levels of monk anymore?

krunchyfrogg · 11-26-2005, 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ZFR:
but....

isn't it that soon as you take the the level of cleric you will not be able to take any levels of monk anymore?

This seems to be a common misperception. You can take any levels in any (lawful) class before taking levels as a monk, and its ok. If you have any monk levels, thats when the multiclassing restrictions kick in.

Klorox · 11-26-2005, 03:49 PM

In a HOF game, I say yes, if not, no.

ZFR · 11-27-2005, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by krunchyfrogg:
This seems to be a common misperception. You can take any levels in any (lawful) class before taking levels as a monk, and its ok. If you have any monk levels, thats when the multiclassing restrictions kick in.

oh I knew that. What I meant is that you have the cleric level first. I misread your first post and thought you plan taking it...

Quote:

Originally posted by krunchyfrogg:
is it worth starting off a human monk build with just 1 level of cleric of bane for the later wisdom (and therefore armor class and stunning fist DC) +2 bonus?

...later.

Now I see that you meant that the bonus wisdom comes later. Sorry my mistake.
If you take the cleric level first everything should be ok.

Marty4 · 11-27-2005, 10:24 AM

Double post, ZFR.

It is a worthwhile build, but why not turn it around with a single monk level and many cleric levels? You will have less offensive power, but a much higher AC, especially with mage levels.

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11-26-2005, 01:35 AM	#2
Aerich Lord Ao Join Date: May 27, 2004 Location: Canada Age: 42 Posts: 2,061	Yes, if you have predetermined that your monk must be human. I'd still say that a DG pure monk is better, though. If you're willing to take an XP penalty, the DG monk with 1 level of dreadmaster would be even more effective. Btw, a +2 to Wis only gives +1 to AC and stunning attacks (and later, quivering palm). To get a +2 to AC and the dc, you need +4 to Wis, which means HoF mode. __________________ Where there is a great deal of free speech, there is always a certain amount of foolish speech. - Winston S. Churchill

11-26-2005, 06:19 AM	#3
ZFR Legion Symbol Join Date: February 14, 2002 Location: Ireland Age: 39 Posts: 7,367	but.... isn't it that soon as you take the the level of cleric you will not be able to take any levels of monk anymore? __________________ ZFR

11-26-2005, 03:49 PM	#5
Klorox Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 21, 2004 Location: USA Age: 48 Posts: 1,168	In a HOF game, I say yes, if not, no. __________________ Baruk Khazad! Khazad ai-mênu! "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."-- Edmund Burke

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