Is Pick Pocket worth it?

dale · 02-28-2002, 02:19 PM

What do people think?

I have a bard/rogue that now has PP skill in the 90's while wearing her two filcher's bracelets. I don't think I have ever gotten anything really worth while or "WOW" by PP.

Does there come a time when I might appreciate the effort put into training her and the skill points invested in the skill?

Pyrates · 02-28-2002, 02:27 PM

Hi dale!

I was really happy about the ability to pickpocket lots of spellbooks. The ones I picked were often better than the ones I could buy... Also, I got some very good weapons I'd never had gotten without pickpocketing, and it allowed me to turn in the Umpani Traitor very soon. So I'd say it's worth it, but if you are not so focused on spellcasters as I am, then you might not find it THAT valuable...

Never forget your towel, cheers
Philipp

Nordoki · 02-28-2002, 03:09 PM

Fasinating. I only had one character who had pickpocket and if I could get him to succeed it would only be once per NPC and would gain garbage. As a result I have given up on that skill with other party groupings.

[ 02-28-2002: Message edited by: Nordoki ]

Professor · 02-28-2002, 03:35 PM

I have gained access to many things that would be otherwise hard to find (weapons, spell books, restoration potions, and the like).

Even if you get garbage, you can sell it (avoid selling the rarer items back to the NPC from whom you stole them).

My party's AC, buff-ability, and combat skills were all enhanced by the pickpocket skill.

Mind you, I have applied no patches. I understand that the patches make pilfering more difficult.

ratchild · 02-28-2002, 03:45 PM

Pickpocketing is invaluable. It gives you access to several items in Arnika that make it worth the initial 25 points alone. I've had great success in several games on Antone alone, with the quality of items. Mantis boots and gloves, faust halber, enchanted wakizashi... everyone else also has nice items as well. of course, this would be before patches. patches = bad. =)

Solomon · 02-28-2002, 04:09 PM

On the patched version, I've found pickpocketing to be too much trouble to bother with. I've never gotten anything I couldn't buy and get caught by everybody sooner or later (usually sooner).

I don't even spend points on it now.

Mage_77 · 02-28-2002, 04:48 PM

With the patch your less likely to get better items. Un-patched you can PP everythign they have a chance to drop if you killed that npc. The benifit to PP though is that "some" npc's have items that you might want (key's for example) that you would have to otherwise ruin a faction you may not want to ruin to get the item. Rapax Constable for key to wall safe is a good example.

Solomon · 02-28-2002, 04:52 PM

Sliding a little further off the topic, if you can't PP the key, you can kill the constable without affecting your rating. Apparently he's not too popular in the castle...

Nightowl2 · 02-28-2002, 06:04 PM

Have to agree...picking pockets and shoplifting are best in the unpatched game. Pretty much a thief's paradise. Every NPC has at least one very good item, sometimes two. Getting them in the patched game is just about impossible, and the skill is worthless there.

Nightowl2

Nix · 02-28-2002, 09:26 PM

quote:
Originally posted by dale:
Does there come a time when I might appreciate the effort put into training her and the skill points invested in the skill?

I doubt it. IMO pickpocket only gives you that initial gain in cash and lets you have nice items earlier. After a certain (fairly early) point, it hardly matters. If you don't think it's worth it at your stage in the game, I can't imagine what will change that view. Personally, I put it in the same class as scouting: I don't think it's worth putting ANY level-up points into.

[ 02-28-2002: Message edited by: Nix ]

02-28-2002, 02:19 PM	#1
dale Manshoon Join Date: January 27, 2002 Location: Columbia MD Posts: 150	What do people think? I have a bard/rogue that now has PP skill in the 90's while wearing her two filcher's bracelets. I don't think I have ever gotten anything really worth while or "WOW" by PP. Does there come a time when I might appreciate the effort put into training her and the skill points invested in the skill? __________________ Dale :mage1:

02-28-2002, 02:27 PM	#2
Pyrates Drow Warrior Join Date: February 3, 2002 Location: Muenster Age: 45 Posts: 287	Hi dale! I was really happy about the ability to pickpocket lots of spellbooks. The ones I picked were often better than the ones I could buy... Also, I got some very good weapons I'd never had gotten without pickpocketing, and it allowed me to turn in the Umpani Traitor very soon. So I'd say it's worth it, but if you are not so focused on spellcasters as I am, then you might not find it THAT valuable... Never forget your towel, cheers Philipp __________________ \" ... and the Vogon will do things to you that you wish you\'d never been born, or, if you\'re a clearer minded thinker, that the Vogon had never been born.\"

02-28-2002, 03:09 PM	#3
Nordoki Dungeon Master Join Date: February 10, 2002 Location: California, USA Posts: 77	Fasinating. I only had one character who had pickpocket and if I could get him to succeed it would only be once per NPC and would gain garbage. As a result I have given up on that skill with other party groupings. [ 02-28-2002: Message edited by: Nordoki ] __________________ \"You\'re just jealous because the little voices talk to me.\"

02-28-2002, 03:35 PM	#4
Professor Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: January 16, 2002 Location: Houston, Texas USA Posts: 22	I have gained access to many things that would be otherwise hard to find (weapons, spell books, restoration potions, and the like). Even if you get garbage, you can sell it (avoid selling the rarer items back to the NPC from whom you stole them). My party's AC, buff-ability, and combat skills were all enhanced by the pickpocket skill. Mind you, I have applied no patches. I understand that the patches make pilfering more difficult. __________________ What doesn\'t kill us makes us stronger.<br />Then something else kills us.

02-28-2002, 03:45 PM	#5
ratchild Manshoon Join Date: January 7, 2002 Location: boulder, co Age: 45 Posts: 241	Pickpocketing is invaluable. It gives you access to several items in Arnika that make it worth the initial 25 points alone. I've had great success in several games on Antone alone, with the quality of items. Mantis boots and gloves, faust halber, enchanted wakizashi... everyone else also has nice items as well. of course, this would be before patches. patches = bad. =) __________________ Freedom is the distance between government and religion

02-28-2002, 04:09 PM	#6
Solomon The Magister Join Date: January 15, 2002 Location: Boston Age: 55 Posts: 126	On the patched version, I've found pickpocketing to be too much trouble to bother with. I've never gotten anything I couldn't buy and get caught by everybody sooner or later (usually sooner). I don't even spend points on it now. __________________ When in doubt, cut it in half.

02-28-2002, 04:48 PM	#7
Mage_77 Manshoon Join Date: February 12, 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia. Posts: 151	With the patch your less likely to get better items. Un-patched you can PP everythign they have a chance to drop if you killed that npc. The benifit to PP though is that "some" npc's have items that you might want (key's for example) that you would have to otherwise ruin a faction you may not want to ruin to get the item. Rapax Constable for key to wall safe is a good example. __________________ <p><br /><b>Dont believe everything your told - Sleep IS Over-rated.</b>

02-28-2002, 04:52 PM	#8
Solomon The Magister Join Date: January 15, 2002 Location: Boston Age: 55 Posts: 126	Sliding a little further off the topic, if you can't PP the key, you can kill the constable without affecting your rating. Apparently he's not too popular in the castle... __________________ When in doubt, cut it in half.

02-28-2002, 06:04 PM	#9
Nightowl2 Galvatron Join Date: December 11, 2001 Location: Plateau of Leng Age: 46 Posts: 2,190	Have to agree...picking pockets and shoplifting are best in the unpatched game. Pretty much a thief's paradise. Every NPC has at least one very good item, sometimes two. Getting them in the patched game is just about impossible, and the skill is worthless there. Nightowl2

02-28-2002, 09:26 PM	#10
Nix The Magister Join Date: October 23, 2001 Location: Philippines Posts: 104	quote: Originally posted by dale: Does there come a time when I might appreciate the effort put into training her and the skill points invested in the skill? I doubt it. IMO pickpocket only gives you that initial gain in cash and lets you have nice items earlier. After a certain (fairly early) point, it hardly matters. If you don't think it's worth it at your stage in the game, I can't imagine what will change that view. Personally, I put it in the same class as scouting: I don't think it's worth putting ANY level-up points into. [ 02-28-2002: Message edited by: Nix ]

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