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Old 02-08-2003, 10:32 AM   #61
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Originally posted by Melusine:
My, aren't we all quick to condemn the kid? Sheesh. Do you have any idea what kind of mental anguish and agony leads a person to contemplate suicide? Teenagers are usually more vulnerable to those feelings than others, thankfully they're not normally strong enough to lead to actual death, but sometimes they are. Does any of you actually KNOW anything about what that kid felt? Yeah so he was an attention seeker, does that mean he deserves to die? The article said he was prescribed anti-depressants earlier. He might have suffered serious depression. Now, a lot of teens sometimes get those feelings, and usually their "suicide attempts" are just cries for help/attention. Don't you think it's at all possible that when this kid went online, he was looking for just that? Help, attention, some sympathy. In that state of mind, already feeling useless, unloved and better off dead, what the hell do you think happens if people encourage you to kill yourself, laugh at you, ridicule you, don't take you seriously? Of course, you think "See? I KNEW all along. I'm better off dead". And there he goes...
He was stupid, an attention seeker, probably not too clever, and a bit of a drama queen. But he was probably also a troubled, depressed teen with no clue what to do about it. He did not deserve to die like that. It's the people who egged him on that are despicable and stupid. And it's the few who tried to help him that we should be thankful for. A suicide threat should ALWAYS be taken seriously. Which do you prefer? Treating someone who threatens suicide like a pathetic attention seeker with the risk of that person killing him/herself? Or taking the threat seriously with the risk of having put your time and effort into a drama queen? I know which one I will always choose. Granted, on rare occasions we can make an educated guess at how sincere the threat is, but this case shows that not taking it seriously can actually MAKE it serious, can be the final straw.

Sorry for being vehement about this, but I don't think you have a right to judge people quite so quickly.
Exactly what i was going to say. Being a teenager myself i know how hard it can be...life isnt allways so perfect
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Old 02-08-2003, 11:41 AM   #62
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Oblivion. Do you seek oblivion? I know I have in the past, in which case I feel sorry for you and hope you can find some inner peace.
I've chewed over this for some small time now.

Are you really this discompassionate? What the f**k has happened in your life son? If your own mother topped herself would you say "f**k her"?

If you're a troll, well...how do you do? You're my first and I look forward to any psychological joust that you may wish to partake in.

For some reason I kinda get a different opinion. I think you're mixed up. Dunno, seems to me that you are just after a reaction. I hope you can get some of this coldness out of you. Humans are nice people by and large, don't be a reptile all your life. Come in from the cold, some one somewhere will care about you. Sometimes you need to show you care about others before others will care for you.

Maybe once you feel cared for, you'll care about others....I hope so.
You're a cold unliked individual atm, that's my take on it.

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Old 02-08-2003, 11:46 AM   #63
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That's enough, Charlie - Oblivion's had his 2c, you've had your 2c, everyone's had their 2c. No point rubbing it in - there won't be any jousting on this topic anyway - time to let it rest now before it gets any more out of control.

RIP.

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Old 02-08-2003, 12:26 PM   #64
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Opening this just long enough to say that this part of your post
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Personally I think the people in this thread who are saying "Ripper" deserved to die are stupid and ignorant. (No offense guys-I speak 'cause I've known people who were either depressed or addicted to anti-depressants).
was out of line, Kaltia.

Didn't you just see Memnoch AND me tell Oblivion that calling others names in this thread because they disagree with him was wrong and against the rules? You just got back into the forum - don't do things like this, ok?

Closing it back up. Good call, Mems.
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