Your tip for the Uefa Champions league?

Zarr · 03-11-2004, 08:10 AM

Just curious who you think will win the Champions League after this weeks results! I vote rather predictibly for Real Madrid

Loudhy · 03-11-2004, 08:20 AM

I think, Real Madrid will win the cup.

I watched the last game against Munich on TV. Real wasn't that good, but IMO when Ronaldo and Santos are back, they'll have the best team of the remaining eight.

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Grojlach · 03-11-2004, 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by Loudhy:

I watched the last game against Munich on TV. Real wasn't that good, but IMO when Ronaldo and Santos are back, they'll have the best team of the remaining eight.

As well as the club with the most debts of the eight, I reckon. Seriously, many large Spanish and Italian football clubs are indebted hundreds of millions of euro, while in other countries clubs with only a small fraction of that same debt go bankrupt, just because they couldn't fork up the last 35,000 euro. It's ludicrous.

johnny · 03-11-2004, 04:43 PM

You're right Groj, a club like real Madrid is being kept alive like a plant, just because they're Real Madrid. In Holland such a thing would be impossible. Football is business, and if you're not generating any money in business, you have no right of excistance. Sooner or later they WILL go down though, they can't keep this up forever.

Zarr · 03-13-2004, 02:01 PM

Well, Real Madrid did have huge debts, nearly 200 million euros, but they sold there training complex to the Spanish government to pay them off. Your both right of course if it was any other club they would have been screwed [img]smile.gif[/img] .

The word is they now have their finances in order... We shall see in the future...

Xen · 03-13-2004, 02:56 PM

I *hate* Real Madrid. Who will win? AC Milan or Arsenal.

johnny · 03-13-2004, 10:55 PM

It appears all Italian clubs are in BIG trouble with huge debts. Roma for instance has a 250 million € debt. I guess it's only a matter of time until that whole league collapses.

Grojlach · 03-14-2004, 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zarr:
Well, Real Madrid did have huge debts, nearly 200 million euros, but they sold there training complex to the Spanish government to pay them off. Your both right of course if it was any other club they would have been screwed [img]smile.gif[/img] .

The word is they now have their finances in order... We shall see in the future...

200 million euro for their training grounds? 10 to 1 these weren't even worth 5% of that amount - a very fishy deal if you ask me.

johnny · 03-14-2004, 06:30 AM

Welcome to the fishy world that football is.

In no other sport or industry you'll find a bigger number of shady managers, brokers, and clubpresidents.

Ever heard of Jesus Gil Y Gil ? He was El Presidente with Atletico Madrid, a club that didn't fair too well financially. No problem for Don Jesus though, he also happened to be mayor of a little place called Marbella, so he simply used cityfundings and taxpayers money to keep the club alive. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

Grojlach · 03-14-2004, 06:42 AM

Ah yes, Gil y Gil... But isn't he spending some quality time in jail now?

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03-11-2004, 08:10 AM	#1
Zarr Symbol of Cyric Join Date: June 19, 2002 Location: Northern Ireland Age: 40 Posts: 1,330	Just curious who you think will win the Champions League after this weeks results! I vote rather predictibly for Real Madrid __________________ Minsc - \"Don\'t ask questions better left to aged sages\"<br /><br />\"You must gather your party before venturing forth\". BANG shoots him dead

03-11-2004, 04:43 PM	#4
johnny 40th Level Warrior Join Date: April 15, 2002 Location: Utrecht The Netherlands Age: 58 Posts: 16,981	You're right Groj, a club like real Madrid is being kept alive like a plant, just because they're Real Madrid. In Holland such a thing would be impossible. Football is business, and if you're not generating any money in business, you have no right of excistance. Sooner or later they WILL go down though, they can't keep this up forever. __________________

03-13-2004, 02:01 PM	#5
Zarr Symbol of Cyric Join Date: June 19, 2002 Location: Northern Ireland Age: 40 Posts: 1,330	Well, Real Madrid did have huge debts, nearly 200 million euros, but they sold there training complex to the Spanish government to pay them off. Your both right of course if it was any other club they would have been screwed [img]smile.gif[/img] . The word is they now have their finances in order... We shall see in the future... __________________ Minsc - \"Don\'t ask questions better left to aged sages\"<br /><br />\"You must gather your party before venturing forth\". BANG shoots him dead

03-13-2004, 10:55 PM	#7
johnny 40th Level Warrior Join Date: April 15, 2002 Location: Utrecht The Netherlands Age: 58 Posts: 16,981	It appears all Italian clubs are in BIG trouble with huge debts. Roma for instance has a 250 million € debt. I guess it's only a matter of time until that whole league collapses. __________________

03-11-2004, 08:20 AM	#2
Loudhy Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: September 3, 2003 Location: Köln Germany Age: 68 Posts: 692	I think, Real Madrid will win the cup. I watched the last game against Munich on TV. Real wasn't that good, but IMO when Ronaldo and Santos are back, they'll have the best team of the remaining eight. [img]graemlins/monster5.gif[/img]

03-13-2004, 02:56 PM	#6
Xen Symbol of Moradin Join Date: June 5, 2002 Location: Slovenia,Ljubljana Age: 36 Posts: 8,554	I hate Real Madrid. Who will win? AC Milan or Arsenal.

03-14-2004, 06:30 AM	#9
johnny 40th Level Warrior Join Date: April 15, 2002 Location: Utrecht The Netherlands Age: 58 Posts: 16,981	Welcome to the fishy world that football is. In no other sport or industry you'll find a bigger number of shady managers, brokers, and clubpresidents. Ever heard of Jesus Gil Y Gil ? He was El Presidente with Atletico Madrid, a club that didn't fair too well financially. No problem for Don Jesus though, he also happened to be mayor of a little place called Marbella, so he simply used cityfundings and taxpayers money to keep the club alive. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. __________________

03-14-2004, 06:42 AM	#10
Grojlach Zartan Join Date: May 2, 2001 Location: Ulpia Noviomagus Batavorum Age: 43 Posts: 5,281	Ah yes, Gil y Gil... But isn't he spending some quality time in jail now?

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