Imoen backstabbing

Elfin · 11-26-2004, 06:16 PM

How do I get Imoen to backstab? I have her equipped with the "Short sword of backstabbing," I click on the stealth icon but nothing happens other than the message "hide in shadows failed? Is anything else required other than to be behind the target?

[ 11-26-2004, 06:21 PM: Message edited by: Elfin ]

Q'alooaith · 11-26-2004, 06:27 PM

Hide in shadow's failed..

Well, you need to hide in shadows first, you can try again and as long as you can't be seen by an enemy you should be able to, though it might take a few trys.. when hidden imoen will turn slightly transparent, then all you have to do is move up behind the target and attack.

Feral · 11-26-2004, 07:38 PM

Keep in mind that Imoen isn't much of a thief (other than traps and lockpicking), so this could take a few (dozen) tries.

ED: I just checked her exact stats - her Hide in Shadows is 25, while her Move Silently is 30 (without enhancements). Not too good. Not too good at all.

[ 11-26-2004, 07:42 PM: Message edited by: Feral ]

krunchyfrogg · 11-26-2004, 08:21 PM

Use the ring of (or a spell) invisibility.

Don't expect to be very impressed with Imoen's backstabbing.

If you want backstabbing, you want Yoshimo, Jan, or Valygar.

[ 11-26-2004, 08:27 PM: Message edited by: krunchyfrogg ]

Ladyzekke · 11-26-2004, 08:38 PM

I have to agree. I rarely even use Imoen with a dagger. I'd rather have her behind the party and safe from enemies, so I equip her with a bow (Gensen is a good one actually throughout the game) when I'm not using spell attacks. As time goes by Imoen gets quite a lot of protective spells so she can go in closer and is safe from hits and spells, but by then you'd be better off going in with a maze spell and screw the dagger. [img]smile.gif[/img] But maze is one of a very few spells wherein the mage has to get right in front of the enemy to get the spell going, most she can do from far away. Good spell though when you have a crowd, especially strong, but dumb, ones! [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]

Lord · 11-29-2004, 12:47 AM

You can use potions to increase her hide in shadows skill temporarily. Or you can use a spell or invisibility potion. Then creep up behind an enemy and attack.

Dace De'Briago · 11-29-2004, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by krunchyfrogg:
If you want backstabbing, you want Yoshimo, Jan, or Valygar.

Or a L21 PC assassin with Crom Faer in the off hand wielding Quietus +4 from the item upgrade mod...

Feral · 11-29-2004, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dace De'Briago:
Or a L21 PC assassin with Crom Faer in the off hand wielding Quietus +4 from the item upgrade mod...

... or you could just use Ctrl-Y. Now, that's a sneak attack!

krunchyfrogg · 11-30-2004, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Feral:

quote:
Originally posted by Dace De'Briago:
Or a L21 PC assassin with Crom Faer in the off hand wielding Quietus +4 from the item upgrade mod...

... or you could just use Ctrl-Y. Now, that's a sneak attack! [/QUOTE]LOL! -- great reply!

Re: Dace: Of course a protagonist, if built that way, will be the best backstabber. Your guy sounds nasty!

Spelca · 12-07-2004, 02:57 AM

I was never able to backstab with a thief (Jan). I don't know why, it just didn't work. He always just stabbed them normally... so there was no extra damage or anything.

11-26-2004, 06:27 PM	#2
Q'alooaith Emerald Dragon Join Date: December 10, 2003 Location: UK Age: 40 Posts: 961	Hide in shadow's failed.. Well, you need to hide in shadows first, you can try again and as long as you can't be seen by an enemy you should be able to, though it might take a few trys.. when hidden imoen will turn slightly transparent, then all you have to do is move up behind the target and attack. __________________ -Jenn

11-26-2004, 07:38 PM	#3
Feral Elminster Join Date: August 27, 2003 Location: The Great White North Age: 50 Posts: 462	Keep in mind that Imoen isn't much of a thief (other than traps and lockpicking), so this could take a few (dozen) tries. ED: I just checked her exact stats - her Hide in Shadows is 25, while her Move Silently is 30 (without enhancements). Not too good. Not too good at all. [ 11-26-2004, 07:42 PM: Message edited by: Feral ] __________________ Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger.

11-26-2004, 08:21 PM	#4
krunchyfrogg Red Dragon Join Date: February 14, 2004 Location: NY, USA Age: 48 Posts: 1,516	Use the ring of (or a spell) invisibility. Don't expect to be very impressed with Imoen's backstabbing. If you want backstabbing, you want Yoshimo, Jan, or Valygar. [ 11-26-2004, 08:27 PM: Message edited by: krunchyfrogg ] __________________ <i>A life is not important, except in the impact it has on other lives.</i><br />- Jackie Robinson<br /><br /> [img]\"http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/3353/salsashark7xl.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

11-26-2004, 08:38 PM	#5
Ladyzekke Ironworks Atomic Moderator Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Virginia, U.S.A. Age: 57 Posts: 9,005	I have to agree. I rarely even use Imoen with a dagger. I'd rather have her behind the party and safe from enemies, so I equip her with a bow (Gensen is a good one actually throughout the game) when I'm not using spell attacks. As time goes by Imoen gets quite a lot of protective spells so she can go in closer and is safe from hits and spells, but by then you'd be better off going in with a maze spell and screw the dagger. [img]smile.gif[/img] But maze is one of a very few spells wherein the mage has to get right in front of the enemy to get the spell going, most she can do from far away. Good spell though when you have a crowd, especially strong, but dumb, ones! [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img] __________________ Reality Show Recaps

11-29-2004, 12:47 AM	#6
Lord Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: June 3, 2003 Location: New York Age: 39 Posts: 3,302	You can use potions to increase her hide in shadows skill temporarily. Or you can use a spell or invisibility potion. Then creep up behind an enemy and attack. __________________ "You're a thief and a liar." "No, I only lied about being a thief."

11-26-2004, 06:16 PM	#1
Elfin Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: November 10, 2004 Location: Odessa, Texas Age: 83 Posts: 38	How do I get Imoen to backstab? I have her equipped with the "Short sword of backstabbing," I click on the stealth icon but nothing happens other than the message "hide in shadows failed? Is anything else required other than to be behind the target? [ 11-26-2004, 06:21 PM: Message edited by: Elfin ]

12-07-2004, 02:57 AM	#10
Spelca Emerald Dragon Join Date: January 3, 2002 Location: From Slovenia, in Sweden Age: 42 Posts: 931	I was never able to backstab with a thief (Jan). I don't know why, it just didn't work. He always just stabbed them normally... so there was no extra damage or anything. __________________ At one time or another there will be a choice: you or the wall. (J. Winterson)

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