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09-23-2001, 07:40 PM | #42 | |
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09-23-2001, 07:46 PM | #43 |
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Tancred, Tracey, this is bulls#@t. You're going to end up severly depressing one another.
Tancred, what comes to pass does not until it's here. The bleak society you evisioned for the future is not yet here. Give her a break. All this talk of realism, fear, pity. Live in the moment a little. At present There is no bomb exploding, you are not dead and the USA and England are not being hit by bombs. Let what will be, take care of itself. ------------------ I am the walrus!.... er, no hang on.... A fair dinkum laughing Hyena! [This message has been edited by Yorick (edited 09-23-2001).] |
09-23-2001, 07:50 PM | #44 | |
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09-23-2001, 08:29 PM | #45 |
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If military action is going to stop terrorism, then why does Isreal still suffer from so many attacks, all the while they have laid considerable resources into killing as many terrorist thier intel could find? The answer is that violence will beget more violence. What causes violence? Fear. Ignorance. The terrorist are ignorant of what the united states and democracy stands for,amongst other things, and in fear they lash out at an imagined threat. Here in the States we are now afraid, Death has come a knockin. And in fear we seek to attack right back. Its doomed to fail. For every terrorist that gets killed, 3 more will takes his place to fight the threat they fear, and this time it'll be knocking right on their front door. The vicious circle goes round and round. Peace is a reality we choose to create, or not. And in the spirit that military intelligence is an oxymoron, so is waging war for peace. Paradox, hypocrisy, or the futile resignation that there is no other way? Political leaders are using this tragedy to make themselves look, well powerful. All of thier huffing and puffing leaves me feeling sorry for them. There is always a choice, always another way.
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09-23-2001, 09:59 PM | #47 |
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Great thread, guys and gals.
Moridin, with all of our might and strenght as a nation, don't you think we could come up with effective solutions better than the old send the military and carpet bomb approach? If we had a Court of Justice, something along the lines of what Silver Cheetah suggested in another thread (perhaps an international body set up specifically for the purpose, as at Nurembourg after world war ii or more recently to try war crimes in what used to be Yugoslavia), then whatever judgement they decreed against Bin Laden cut be executed by a small elite force trained for the purpose. With patience, Bin Laden's location and movements could be tracked and plans could be put into play for dealing with him. That would seem far better than rushing off to start an old fashioned war with planes and bombs and the like. |
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I also agree, if you missed it, that some sort of long-term solution needs to be found. Whether this is an international anti-terrorism group/court or whether it is a prolonged military/economic campaign or whatever...but we cannot sit and wait for such a group to be formed. Terrorists will strike again and again, while we form committees to discuss said attacks...we at least need a starting point, if to do nothing else, keep these terrorists occupied while we can come up with a better solution! ------------------ Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig I've got to admit it's getting better, it's getting better all the time Bossman of Better Funny Stuff.....of the Laughing Hyenas! |
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The Taliban do not care about world opinion or world actions as proven by their past behaviour in disregarding the said world opinion. ------------------ I am the walrus!.... er, no hang on.... A fair dinkum laughing Hyena! |
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