Alignment question...

Mordamir · 02-07-2003, 08:17 AM

Yeah, everyone knows how to gain points in Good and Evil....but I simply have no idea how to gain points in Law and Chaos....my character is chaotic good and he´s on chapter 2...his Chaos stats hasn´t changed at all (though he got 100 points on Good). Does anyone knows how to gain Chaos points?

Also, is there a patch or module that adds prestige classes to the game?

Thx...

Gabrielles blades · 02-07-2003, 08:47 AM

Ankh Morpork of Discworld is the only mod i know of to make changes to your law/chaos alignment

Micah Foehammer · 02-07-2003, 09:29 AM

All Things are Light by Orpheus will also change your alignment from lawful to chaotic, in fact it will do it for the ENTIRE party if you are in mplayer mode.

homer · 02-07-2003, 11:20 AM

As far as I could tell, there is no way to alter chaos/lawful in the original module. In my opinion there was not enough attention paid to this particular aspect of the game. It dose not make sense that a lawful good paladin can steal from an individuals home without an alignment repercussion; how lawful is that?

Micah Foehammer · 02-07-2003, 11:32 AM

homer is right. THere is nothing in the original game that will allow you to alter alignment from lawful to chaotic. only the good/evil alignment shifts are implemented.

Mordamir · 02-07-2003, 12:35 PM

That´s pretty weird...I mean, they created it and forget to add events that change Law\Chaos alignments...

What a flaw...

Micah Foehammer · 02-07-2003, 02:02 PM

The capability to change lawful/chaotic alignment exists in the toolset. Bioware just chose not to put those type of events in the OC. Hardly a flaw, just a design decision.

Dragonshadow · 03-10-2003, 08:35 AM

Just as well you can't, ny NG druid would be in troble: level 17

WOLFGIR · 03-10-2003, 08:38 AM

Yepp, agree with the last post here.

Many problems for Paladins, Monks, Druids and Barbarians.

Personally I don´t like the way you get goody two shoes points for doing quests just because the person you help is good. If I do it for the money I do it for the money. Bah.. Alignments are the biggest trouble and one of the basic things with D&D forever it seems... :S

koconnor100 · 03-10-2003, 11:33 PM

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Originally posted by Mordamir:
Yeah, everyone knows how to gain points in Good and Evil....but I simply have no idea how to gain points in Law and Chaos....my character is chaotic good and he´s on chapter 2...his Chaos stats hasn´t changed at all (though he got 100 points on Good). Does anyone knows how to gain Chaos points?

Also, is there a patch or module that adds prestige classes to the game?

Thx...

the official campaign does nothing about the Lawful/Chaos situation, much to the embarrasment of many many Lawful Neutril Druids who turn Lawful Good after a few quests and suddenly discover they can't advance as a druid anymore....

The next release due in spring 2003 will have 5 prestige classes and a 60 hour campaign in it, along with more "content" (tiles, monsters, magic items, etc etc)

The problem with Lawful / Chaotic is that it can be argued that a theif is chaotic because he breaks the law. And it can be argued that he is lawful because he obeys the laws of his own little society. In effect, you have the same actions being judged as lawful in one case, or chaotic in another, and most people just don't want to deal with the issue at all.

02-07-2003, 08:17 AM	#1
Mordamir Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: January 29, 2003 Location: Brazil Age: 39 Posts: 24	Yeah, everyone knows how to gain points in Good and Evil....but I simply have no idea how to gain points in Law and Chaos....my character is chaotic good and he´s on chapter 2...his Chaos stats hasn´t changed at all (though he got 100 points on Good). Does anyone knows how to gain Chaos points? Also, is there a patch or module that adds prestige classes to the game? Thx... __________________ Have no sig...yet!

02-07-2003, 09:29 AM	#3
Micah Foehammer Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: November 15, 2001 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 3,253	All Things are Light by Orpheus will also change your alignment from lawful to chaotic, in fact it will do it for the ENTIRE party if you are in mplayer mode. __________________ “Every tavern’s an opportunity, I say.”

02-07-2003, 11:20 AM	#4
homer Manshoon Join Date: November 11, 2001 Location: couch Age: 52 Posts: 180	As far as I could tell, there is no way to alter chaos/lawful in the original module. In my opinion there was not enough attention paid to this particular aspect of the game. It dose not make sense that a lawful good paladin can steal from an individuals home without an alignment repercussion; how lawful is that? __________________ You tried and you failed; the lesson is, never try. - Homer

02-07-2003, 11:32 AM	#5
Micah Foehammer Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: November 15, 2001 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 3,253	homer is right. THere is nothing in the original game that will allow you to alter alignment from lawful to chaotic. only the good/evil alignment shifts are implemented. __________________ “Every tavern’s an opportunity, I say.”

02-07-2003, 12:35 PM	#6
Mordamir Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: January 29, 2003 Location: Brazil Age: 39 Posts: 24	That´s pretty weird...I mean, they created it and forget to add events that change Law\Chaos alignments... What a flaw... __________________ Have no sig...yet!

02-07-2003, 08:47 AM	#2
Gabrielles blades Baaz Draconian Join Date: April 26, 2002 Location: florida Age: 42 Posts: 761	Ankh Morpork of Discworld is the only mod i know of to make changes to your law/chaos alignment

02-07-2003, 02:02 PM	#7
Micah Foehammer Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: November 15, 2001 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 3,253	The capability to change lawful/chaotic alignment exists in the toolset. Bioware just chose not to put those type of events in the OC. Hardly a flaw, just a design decision. __________________ “Every tavern’s an opportunity, I say.”

03-10-2003, 08:35 AM	#8
Dragonshadow Quth-Maren Join Date: February 17, 2003 Location: Portsmouth Age: 34 Posts: 4,145	Just as well you can't, ny NG druid would be in troble: level 17 __________________ aka Loc der Graf, Quillruke

03-10-2003, 08:38 AM	#9
WOLFGIR Bastet - Egyptian Cat Goddess Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Sweden Age: 50 Posts: 3,450	Yepp, agree with the last post here. Many problems for Paladins, Monks, Druids and Barbarians. Personally I don´t like the way you get goody two shoes points for doing quests just because the person you help is good. If I do it for the money I do it for the money. Bah.. Alignments are the biggest trouble and one of the basic things with D&D forever it seems... :S __________________ Don´t eat the yellow snow

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