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Old 05-24-2001, 11:58 PM   #1
Hayashi
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Between the 2 of them - who is better at thieving, and who has the greater potential (at least, until Yoshi, ummm, y'know... )

Potential wise, I'd say Yoshi as he is a pure thief. Jan however is also a mage, which to me is a substantial plus.

I use my thief almost exclusively for detecting and disarming traps, and lockpicking. With his gear Jan is better at this imho. I seldom pickpocket/steal, and I can't quite get the hang of backstabbing enemies.

So I guess my question should be rephrased as, "Would Jan be a good enough thief?" for my playing style.

One of his drawbacks is his 9 Str, but I suppose I can buy or find a girdle of strength to overcome this. Any ideas where I can find one?

I am also looking for potions of master thievery. Noy many merchants stock these. Are there any I can buy from?

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Old 05-25-2001, 12:03 AM   #2
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Since Yoshimo is single class thief and Jan is multi class, the answer is pretty obvious if it is only thieving abilities you are concern about. Jan is more than enough for your detect/disarm traps and the occasional odd locks.
If you are looking for a girdle to enhance STR, check out Adventurers' Mart. As for potions....I usually find mine, don't think there are many places that sells these....(if any at all).... *sign*


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Old 05-25-2001, 12:13 AM   #3
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Do you camp by your computer or something? Thanks for the fast response, Accord.
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Old 05-25-2001, 12:17 AM   #4
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hayashi,
i found out that if you go to the various thief merchants who are scattered around... you can get invisibility and master thievery potions from them.

let's see, there's the girl to the right of the doors of the copper coronet, but closer to the houses on the right side of the screen. umar hills, outside of the inn, is a trio of thieves selling stuff, but i think they show up after you finish that quest.

they aren't hard to find and have a distint thief-like look. they are cowled and hang in the same place all the time.

oh yeah, if you kill thieves from the shadow thief consortium, they tend to have a few on their persons also.

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Old 05-25-2001, 12:22 AM   #5
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Do you camp by your computer or something? Thanks for the fast response, Accord.
Nah....just bad weather is keeping me indoors.
Beside, I am on my quest to clean my room.

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Old 05-25-2001, 12:25 AM   #6
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I've never really found a need for those Potions of Thievery Mastery.

But to the issue....YOSHIMO ALL THE WAY!!!

Despite what others say Yoshimo is the perfect thief character. And I'm not just talking about ability wise either, I'm also to referring to his little secret...*hint hint*

Total quintessential thief character. Jan is more comic relief. Towards the end Imoen proves good enough to get by with.
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Old 05-25-2001, 01:43 AM   #7
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jan is the best thief in the game, by far. he's got the best equipment for it, and happens to be a mage on top of that. besides, yoshimo is a jack*ss.

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Old 05-25-2001, 01:48 AM   #8
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Couldn't agree more Trux >>

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Old 05-25-2001, 06:51 AM   #9
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Same here. Go for Jan. Yoshi is a punk.

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Old 05-25-2001, 07:40 AM   #10
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Yoshimo's thieving skills go up faster than Jan's, but that doesn't make him a better thief. Jan has equipment that puts himself way ahead of Yoshimo, plus he's a mage, plus he isn't a *beep*, plus he isn't that annoying, plus he has some very funny dialogue like "You'll go far you know. Even further maybe, than Uncle Bifflechips. Though he was flung by a catapult, so I suppose I shouldn't count that."

Anyway, go with Jan.

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