02-05-2003, 04:40 PM | #11 | |
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I plan to take a double English/History degree and teach both those subjects in GB for a while, but really I want to teach in the US *flush*[/QUOTE]Of course you do - especially if you want to teach College-level or higher. We may have crap high schools, but our colleges are so good, students actually catch up and surpass their peers in other countries. |
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02-05-2003, 04:48 PM | #12 |
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Hmm I have never been a big fan of the American education system. Perhaps one should ask why students attending private schools get a better education. The only thing I can come up with is funding, that is a lower teacher per student average and better literature. I´m not sure about the quality of teachers so I will refrain from mentioning that as an argument. What would happen to the American students of the same amount of funding went into public schools? Better public schools would be able to compete with private schools and offer a high quality education. Is 17k per year the average cost for attending a private school? I´m not sure banning private schools is the best alternative, perhaps a more prolonged liquidation would be better. But I for one don´t understand why money should be the determining factor for a good education.
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02-05-2003, 05:12 PM | #14 |
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But, Wellard, in the USA you have simply crossed a fairly bright line: that of mixing government and religion. And, as any catholic school student can tell you, you can't very well take the Catholocism out of Catholic school - even by a little bit.
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02-05-2003, 05:34 PM | #15 |
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Don't worry about your stupid kids - with the wages US companies can afford, you can always import smart forigners to do the thinking for you
More seriously - I don't think that abolishing the private schools are the answer to education problems - upgrading/improving the public schools are, even if means raising taxes *gasp* This grammar (and punctuation ) are also brought to you by a public school [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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Fact #2 There is no legal or constitutional reason for making private schools illegal. Fact #3 It is the people who tell government what to do andnot the other way around...or at least it is supposed to be that way. Anyway you look at it, three strikes and yerrrr outta there |
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02-05-2003, 05:52 PM | #17 |
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Gee, MagiK, so... um.... nice.... to see you trolling the IWF once again. [img]graemlins/dontknowaboutyou.gif[/img] We really have missed the Grumpy Old Muppets lately. But... um... come to think of it, just don't post on any of MY threads, okay?
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02-05-2003, 05:53 PM | #18 |
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Its a two stage project Timber. First improve state schools so that the point of private schools is lost. Then when a more level playing field is achieved we can get to work on church schools (i'd rather save that one for another thread though) But the children come first so, Yes to banning private schools unless out of normal hours AFTER the public school standard is raised
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There also seems to be a very large difference in the parent participation too, the parents are way more involved and encouraged to be, where as in the Maryland public school systems for example, you are never allowed contact with the childs teachers outside very strictly controlled administration set up situations which discourages meetings by setting time requirements aimed at making meeting dificult and inconvenient. Private schools work with the parents schedules and take a far more personal approach to students and teachers. Blame it on Class sizes but the statistics on it don't bear itout. |
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02-05-2003, 06:01 PM | #20 |
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Well, one thing is selectivity. Public schools must teach to the least common denominator - and are structured that way. Heck, I guess all classrooms teach to the near-to-least common denominator.
But, in the private schools, little mary or johnnie has to have xx% in their grades from elsewhere and score xx% on some tests before they can gain admission. So, it's implicit that private schools will have better kids - they don't accept the dummies. [Edit] NORMALLY, that is. [ 02-05-2003, 06:02 PM: Message edited by: Timber Loftis ] |
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