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Sherpa Doug · 01-26-2001, 05:24 PM

Does anyone know the relative merits of:

Oil of Fiery Burning size ??? 5D6 damage
Potion of Explosions size 40' 6D6 damage
Arrows of Detonation size ??? 7D6 damage

They all do about the same thing, but are there differences? Are some bigger than others? I don't know how to find out except for a LOT of experimentation.

Sherpa Doug

01-26-2001, 08:43 PM

Im not sure about the merits of the different explosive weapons, but my faverite is the "Arrows of Detination". I like to equip my thief with them and go scouting with "invisable and protection from fire", if there is something waiting around the corner I dont know about, the arrows will usually take care of them (usually).

mir_ror · 01-26-2001, 11:42 PM

I suppose the text description of the potion / arrow says it all, doesn't it? The damage inflicted (5d6/6d6 etc), size of the explosion (40" etc) eg. ...

I'm quite reluctant to use arrows of detonation (preferring to reserve them for those major battles), since they're extremely expensive (~4000 for 5 arrows?!). Usually, I would use the potions/bottles instead, and even then on those annoying skeletons (there are hordes of them in certain areas) which are relatively impervious to ranged attacks.

01-27-2001, 05:10 PM

He is right, they are quite expensive, I use them sparingly.(If im not cheating of course)
I want to ask, does it generally bother the regulars,like you guys, that I cheat? I know it spoills the effect it is suppose to have as an RPG, but it kicked my but for months before I broke down. I really like messaging with you guys and dont want to affend any body. I dont give the spoillers out unless im asked to.

mir_ror · 01-28-2001, 12:51 AM

I agree with IdiotRogue - the point of getting a game is for the sake of its entertainment value. If you're one who likes sticking to the rules and beating the game on its own terms (like I do), go ahead. But if you're the type who likes to hack the game and tamper with it (like having Drizzt fight on your side or seeing Saravok splattered by a cow), well, I see nothing wrong with that either (after I beat the game, I usually do this).

In general, I prefer to overcome challenges without 'outside' help, or to rely on forums like this as a source of strategies/resources to draw from. But at the end of the day (& when twilight falls...just talking rubbish , it ultimately lies with your style of playing.

PS For scouting unexplored areas, I usually use a thief or a ranger. The former is better since you can also search for traps/secret doors at the same time!

IdiotRogue · 01-28-2001, 10:07 AM

Kathen: a long time gamer, Memnoch, I believe, pointed out that there isn't really an "right and wrong" about cheating. If it enhances your gaming experience, then by all means do so. The only "cheaters" I have seen who have offended are those who brag about how easy a situation in the game was when it was obvious they "hacked" their character's attributes or equipment (e.g.: How could one obtain the Cloak of Nondetection without having gone to the area in which it is found? There is only one in the game, right?).

I cheat all the time by using "ExploreArea" because I kept stumbling into things that killed me. I also used Gatekeeper to recreate a character I lost in a hard drive disaster (took me about 2 hrs during character creation to get good attributes doing it "fair and square" and I was not going to spend that much time again).

In short, whatever works for you is how you should play and enjoy the game.

01-28-2001, 06:58 PM

Thank you for the reply, I feel better already, must that healing potion. I do try a game out first with no cheats to see if it is going to drive me insane or not, like BG does, and then want to see and find everything, so cheats come in handy. Anyway, thanks alot, I dont want my reputation to be bad becouse I cheat. And I understand about those who cheat and brag about where and what they can do, that is bad.

IdiotRogue · 01-28-2001, 10:40 PM

mir_ror: Thanks for the tip. Others have suggested it to me as well. My main problem(s) are that I cannot spend as much time playing as I would like. Therefore, I am not especially coordinated when it comes to controlling my group. I use the "ExploreArea" to see the terrain, then usually use my thief to locate the bad guys, traps, etc. I am hoping that, by the time I am done with this game, I will be able to play it "straight." D&D rules and RPGs are new to me (just a few months) but I am having a blast (except for trying it as a mage - gotta practice on that a LOT!).

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01-26-2001, 05:24 PM	#1
Sherpa Doug Dungeon Master Join Date: March 5, 2001 Posts: 70	Does anyone know the relative merits of: Oil of Fiery Burning size ??? 5D6 damage Potion of Explosions size 40' 6D6 damage Arrows of Detonation size ??? 7D6 damage They all do about the same thing, but are there differences? Are some bigger than others? I don't know how to find out except for a LOT of experimentation. Sherpa Doug

01-26-2001, 08:43 PM	#2
Kathen Stonefire Guest Posts: n/a	Im not sure about the merits of the different explosive weapons, but my faverite is the "Arrows of Detination". I like to equip my thief with them and go scouting with "invisable and protection from fire", if there is something waiting around the corner I dont know about, the arrows will usually take care of them (usually).

01-26-2001, 11:42 PM	#3
mir_ror Welcomed New User Join Date: August 26, 2002 Location: Singapore Age: 44 Posts: 0	I suppose the text description of the potion / arrow says it all, doesn't it? The damage inflicted (5d6/6d6 etc), size of the explosion (40" etc) eg. ... I'm quite reluctant to use arrows of detonation (preferring to reserve them for those major battles), since they're extremely expensive (~4000 for 5 arrows?!). Usually, I would use the potions/bottles instead, and even then on those annoying skeletons (there are hordes of them in certain areas) which are relatively impervious to ranged attacks.

01-27-2001, 05:10 PM	#4
Kathen Stonefire Guest Posts: n/a	He is right, they are quite expensive, I use them sparingly.(If im not cheating of course) I want to ask, does it generally bother the regulars,like you guys, that I cheat? I know it spoills the effect it is suppose to have as an RPG, but it kicked my but for months before I broke down. I really like messaging with you guys and dont want to affend any body. I dont give the spoillers out unless im asked to.

01-28-2001, 12:51 AM	#5
mir_ror Welcomed New User Join Date: August 26, 2002 Location: Singapore Age: 44 Posts: 0	I agree with IdiotRogue - the point of getting a game is for the sake of its entertainment value. If you're one who likes sticking to the rules and beating the game on its own terms (like I do), go ahead. But if you're the type who likes to hack the game and tamper with it (like having Drizzt fight on your side or seeing Saravok splattered by a cow), well, I see nothing wrong with that either (after I beat the game, I usually do this). In general, I prefer to overcome challenges without 'outside' help, or to rely on forums like this as a source of strategies/resources to draw from. But at the end of the day (& when twilight falls...just talking rubbish , it ultimately lies with your style of playing. PS For scouting unexplored areas, I usually use a thief or a ranger. The former is better since you can also search for traps/secret doors at the same time!

01-28-2001, 10:07 AM	#6
IdiotRogue Manshoon Join Date: March 4, 2001 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 187	Kathen: a long time gamer, Memnoch, I believe, pointed out that there isn't really an "right and wrong" about cheating. If it enhances your gaming experience, then by all means do so. The only "cheaters" I have seen who have offended are those who brag about how easy a situation in the game was when it was obvious they "hacked" their character's attributes or equipment (e.g.: How could one obtain the Cloak of Nondetection without having gone to the area in which it is found? There is only one in the game, right?). I cheat all the time by using "ExploreArea" because I kept stumbling into things that killed me. I also used Gatekeeper to recreate a character I lost in a hard drive disaster (took me about 2 hrs during character creation to get good attributes doing it "fair and square" and I was not going to spend that much time again). In short, whatever works for you is how you should play and enjoy the game.

01-28-2001, 06:58 PM	#7
Kathen Stonefire Guest Posts: n/a	Thank you for the reply, I feel better already, must that healing potion. I do try a game out first with no cheats to see if it is going to drive me insane or not, like BG does, and then want to see and find everything, so cheats come in handy. Anyway, thanks alot, I dont want my reputation to be bad becouse I cheat. And I understand about those who cheat and brag about where and what they can do, that is bad.

01-28-2001, 10:40 PM	#8
IdiotRogue Manshoon Join Date: March 4, 2001 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 187	mir_ror: Thanks for the tip. Others have suggested it to me as well. My main problem(s) are that I cannot spend as much time playing as I would like. Therefore, I am not especially coordinated when it comes to controlling my group. I use the "ExploreArea" to see the terrain, then usually use my thief to locate the bad guys, traps, etc. I am hoping that, by the time I am done with this game, I will be able to play it "straight." D&D rules and RPGs are new to me (just a few months) but I am having a blast (except for trying it as a mage - gotta practice on that a LOT!).

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