Can i kill the Fire Lord?

Avatar · 09-12-2002, 10:59 AM

I forgot to try but is it at all possible?
This is the Fire Lord (impossible challenge rating) in Charwood. I was on level 14 when i met the guy. He appeared and summoned a Succubus (moderate challenge rating).

Wurm · 09-12-2002, 11:22 AM

As far as I remember I killed every damn thing that got in my way in that game.

The answer is yes [img]smile.gif[/img]

Suzaku · 09-12-2002, 12:09 PM

"Anything that bleeds can die. Anything not immortal will die. All beings are destined to their individual fate."

hehehe some wierd self-made quote.

perk31 · 09-12-2002, 12:42 PM

You can kill him but it is tough.

Ar-Cunin · 09-12-2002, 03:14 PM

you need a +3 weapon to hit him

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[ 09-12-2002, 03:15 PM: Message edited by: Ar-Cunin ]

AndyG · 09-12-2002, 03:37 PM

Belial is a very tough fight for a level 10-12 character. If you come back and replay the chapter at level 15 or 16, you could probably take him out. Alternatively, you could cheat up some nice weapons and armor and give it a try.

Avatar · 09-13-2002, 04:31 AM

How tough, tough is he???
I mean can u compare him with someone else?
A balor? A lich? one of the boss fights?

Whailor · 09-13-2002, 10:19 AM

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Frankly I just killed him. I had a save game before I engaged him, so first I tried to talk with him and get his testimony. Second time I fought him and then played the judge. And you know what? KILL THE SUCKER. No matter whether you get the testimony out of him or not, it doesn't change the judgement much. You'd think that you could "blame him" for causing it all and then he'd get some punishment and so, but noo..

I tried all combinations and only one gave the MAX XP - find Karlat guilty. Rest were all small XP. So why to let the arrogant shmuck like Belial just "vanish" away? Smack him. So I went to him, did NOT cast protection, and summoned him. He came and said "Haha, foolish mortal, you forgot to cast your ptotection spells!", to what I answered "Haha, foolish demon, I did it on PURPOSE!" He was "purple" to me, but not really that tough, at lvl 15. Frankly I had read about him and was thinking that he's tougher. Also that fighter char of mine I planned a bit, so he's good in melee combat

ABRAXA5 · 09-15-2002, 05:58 PM

Cant remember what level my Monk was when I got to him, but the fight was easily the hardest in the game. I chugged so many potions beating him that I sloshed when I walked [img]smile.gif[/img]

Ar-Cunin · 09-16-2002, 05:04 AM

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IIRC you get max xp by finding neither brother guilty, and calling upon Belial to witness - then taking the phyciatri(sp?) for yourself - the villagers are released (extra xp) and you get a useful item (sanctuary x2/day)

09-12-2002, 10:59 AM	#1
Avatar Vampire Join Date: April 28, 2001 Location: Cambridge Age: 41 Posts: 3,877	I forgot to try but is it at all possible? This is the Fire Lord (impossible challenge rating) in Charwood. I was on level 14 when i met the guy. He appeared and summoned a Succubus (moderate challenge rating). __________________ <b>Ê†ë®Ñï†Ý \'s Avariel<br /></b><br />Creator and Mithril Protector of the ALSB Clan <br /> [img]\"http://www.wizardrealm.com/images/avatar.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

09-12-2002, 11:22 AM	#2
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09-12-2002, 12:09 PM	#3
Suzaku Drow Warrior Join Date: December 11, 2001 Location: Canada, AB Age: 38 Posts: 264	"Anything that bleeds can die. Anything not immortal will die. All beings are destined to their individual fate." hehehe some wierd self-made quote. __________________ <br />Irresponsibility: No single raindrop will believe that it is to blame for the resulting flood. -Anonymous <br />IW PT Sig-Artist

09-12-2002, 12:42 PM	#4
perk31 Manshoon Join Date: November 15, 2001 Location: Atlanta Posts: 163	You can kill him but it is tough. __________________ By serving one another we all become free.

09-12-2002, 03:14 PM	#5
Ar-Cunin Ra Join Date: August 14, 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Age: 52 Posts: 2,326	you need a +3 weapon to hit him EDIT: spoiler - - - - - - - - - - - but better to ask him about the brothers for the trial- [ 09-12-2002, 03:15 PM: Message edited by: Ar-Cunin ] __________________ Life is a laugh <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[biglaugh]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/biglaugh.gif\" /> - and DEATH is the final joke <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[hehe]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/hehe.gif\" />

09-12-2002, 03:37 PM	#6
AndyG Elminster Join Date: June 20, 2002 Location: Manchester, CT Age: 55 Posts: 422	Belial is a very tough fight for a level 10-12 character. If you come back and replay the chapter at level 15 or 16, you could probably take him out. Alternatively, you could cheat up some nice weapons and armor and give it a try.

09-13-2002, 04:31 AM	#7
Avatar Vampire Join Date: April 28, 2001 Location: Cambridge Age: 41 Posts: 3,877	How tough, tough is he??? I mean can u compare him with someone else? A balor? A lich? one of the boss fights? __________________ <b>Ê†ë®Ñï†Ý \'s Avariel<br /></b><br />Creator and Mithril Protector of the ALSB Clan <br /> [img]\"http://www.wizardrealm.com/images/avatar.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

09-13-2002, 10:19 AM	#8
Whailor Avatar Join Date: May 16, 2001 Location: Estonia Posts: 532	Smallish spoilers: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Frankly I just killed him. I had a save game before I engaged him, so first I tried to talk with him and get his testimony. Second time I fought him and then played the judge. And you know what? KILL THE SUCKER. No matter whether you get the testimony out of him or not, it doesn't change the judgement much. You'd think that you could "blame him" for causing it all and then he'd get some punishment and so, but noo.. I tried all combinations and only one gave the MAX XP - find Karlat guilty. Rest were all small XP. So why to let the arrogant shmuck like Belial just "vanish" away? Smack him. So I went to him, did NOT cast protection, and summoned him. He came and said "Haha, foolish mortal, you forgot to cast your ptotection spells!", to what I answered "Haha, foolish demon, I did it on PURPOSE!" He was "purple" to me, but not really that tough, at lvl 15. Frankly I had read about him and was thinking that he's tougher. Also that fighter char of mine I planned a bit, so he's good in melee combat __________________

09-15-2002, 05:58 PM	#9
ABRAXA5 Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: August 21, 2002 Location: Australia Age: 50 Posts: 7	Cant remember what level my Monk was when I got to him, but the fight was easily the hardest in the game. I chugged so many potions beating him that I sloshed when I walked [img]smile.gif[/img]

09-16-2002, 05:04 AM	#10
Ar-Cunin Ra Join Date: August 14, 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Age: 52 Posts: 2,326	spoiler - - - - - - - - - - - - IIRC you get max xp by finding neither brother guilty, and calling upon Belial to witness - then taking the phyciatri(sp?) for yourself - the villagers are released (extra xp) and you get a useful item (sanctuary x2/day) __________________ Life is a laugh <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[biglaugh]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/biglaugh.gif\" /> - and DEATH is the final joke <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[hehe]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/hehe.gif\" />

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