09-24-2001, 04:21 PM | #11 | |
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But the Palestinians have more right on their side than the Israelis do, imho. And when your enemy has ovewhelming force to back up his claim, what are you left with when negotiation fails? Having religious/political maniacs on both sides doesn't help, either. I am DEAD AGAINST war - but I recognise that you can't keep lying down under tyranny and oppression for ever if all attempts at negotiation fail. If black Americans and black Africans had done that, they would still be either slaves or subject to the laws of Apartheid. If Europe had done that when Hitler tried to take over, Europe would be enslaved too. I am against war, because too many innocent lives are wasted - but I am NOT a pacifist. ------------------ |
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09-24-2001, 04:39 PM | #12 | |
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Not sure I understand what your point is here..... ?? ------------------ |
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09-24-2001, 05:20 PM | #13 | |
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It's a standard, basic noun like any other. It is not a proper name. Jesus or Jehovah are proper names, and would normally be capitalised. In Britain, nouns are not capitalised as a matter of course. PS. Leave Luther alone! I loved what he said..... More Luther, more more more... (Excited tail lashing...) ------------------ [This message has been edited by Silver Cheetah (edited 09-24-2001).] |
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09-24-2001, 06:40 PM | #14 |
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Hmmmm. Thansk for the info, O Sterling Feline. Not a day goes by that I don't learn something on this forum...
Oh, and Fljotsdale, I think you're dead on with the fundamentalist kook bit, also. Whether they invoke Yahweh, Allah, God, or Bullwinkle, a fundie is a fundie is a fundie, and are thereby some of the most dangerous and screwheaded examples of Homo Bellophilia to be found. (ed. note: Did I get my Latin correct?, been a while and I can't recall..) ------------------ |
09-24-2001, 08:28 PM | #15 | |
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You have state stocked rivers, lakes and forests in the US. The DNR controls most government wide stocking and trys to preserve Americas fish and game. They are doing good but there is always room for improvement in these areas Well, stay with me here..Im getting to it On reservations many of these streams, lakes, and forests connect to state territorys. The DNR requires people , living in the US, to buy a state fishing and hunting licence and dictates techniques for doing so. Assureing breeding and game accuretly, food wise. So all in state areas you must have one to be legal. But in Reservations ,the areas of woods and flow, Natives are taking fish and game illegally according to US law. Canadians might have some input here also. Standing on the "right spot" will yeild a high quantity of game when a systematic drive is taken. Bears knew this age ago Alot of land right tensions are here also.(have you been to Isreal?) ------------------ *\Conan/* |
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09-24-2001, 11:19 PM | #16 | |
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The Arabs moved into the area circa 650AD with invasive and violent dispossessing action. War. The Jews had Palestine as their homeland for many hundreds of years prior to this, and after the invasion became a repressed minority. Aditionally the Arabs have many many nations where they can exist in an Islamic state with Arabic as there national language and be ruled by their own people. Hebrew is the only official language of one state. Judaism is the only official of one state. From nation to nation they have been oppressed, victimised and been ruled by non-Jews. Give them a break. What do you want them to do? Die? That was Hitlers "final solution" to the "Jewish problem" wasn't it? Is that what you propose Silver? ------------------ I am the walrus!.... er, no hang on.... A fair dinkum laughing Hyena! [This message has been edited by Yorick (edited 09-24-2001).] |
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09-24-2001, 11:32 PM | #17 | |
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As for the claim that it used to be their homeland a long time ago, why on earth do we claim that this means the Jews are entitled now to their ancient homeland when we do not claim the same thing for any other displaced people on the face of this earth? Geez, those crazy Palestinians, getting all bent out of shape at being singled out for this special treatment. Imagine that. [This message has been edited by Diogenes Of Pumpkintown (edited 09-24-2001).] |
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09-24-2001, 11:39 PM | #18 | |
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Now I haven't read the koran, I only asked one muslim, but I heard a muslim from boston college corelate this knowledge on a tv news show.It was cool, a catholic priest and a muslim cleric asking for tolerance and mutual understanding, together. Gotta love it! |
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09-24-2001, 11:48 PM | #19 | |
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The Arabian homeland is right next door to Israel, and much larger and of greater religious significance. The fact remains that we are talking a very very small area Diogenes, and about the only homeland on the face of the planet for a persecuted race. Madagaskar was looked at as were other places. Your comment about Australia is not as stupid as you percieve, except that it is not their homeland. However the Aborigines of Australia have special status. Autonomous zones, ownership of key areas such as Uluru, funding, preferred employee status, housing assistance and education fee waivers. Did the Arab conquerers afford to the "Aboriginies of Israel" such special status? No. ------------------ I am the walrus!.... er, no hang on.... A fair dinkum laughing Hyena! |
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09-24-2001, 11:57 PM | #20 | |
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